Thank you for the post Kyleesnan. I went back and reread it and definitely refreshed my memory. Like my mama always said, 'if you can''t say something nice, don't say it at all!"

Big Huggies...no not diapers!!! teehee!
JoAnn

There's the saying "Always be true to yourself"....I tend to think it might be just as wise to "Always be truthful with yourself"....

Joni

Thank You for your timely reminder Kyleesnan.

I had not read the "Rules of thr Road" for some
time. I was in total agreement with the very
first line: "We believe that kindness, compassion and knowledge of others can greatly empower anyone to overcome health and life challenges." I, too, believe in kindness and
compassion for all.

I will do my best to follow the rules set forth
by Daily Strength. Sally

I so agree with you all - and can you say in your heart of hearts that is what you are doing right at this moment? By posting this and other posts - Is it not your intention to keep this disagreement and conflict going?

I have an equal right to be on this site to speak my opinions - it seems many of you have chosen to interpret these opinion as 'my causing trouble' I do not abuse DS Rules of the Road and I have not abused any of you. I do feel however the gang is abusing the Rules of the Road.

I am truthful to myself and to people as a whole. I also am not afraid to speak my truth as an individual. Can any one of you in your heart of hearts honestly admit to yourself that you are not actually breaking the rules of the road, by harrassing and bullying?

I know you accuse me of these things but it is not I who Gangs up on one individual, nor is it I who spreads and continues spread malicious rumours and lies.

It is not I who continues to provoke this very unhealthy and unsavory behaviour with the Support Group.

Do any of you ever stop and think how you all look to a new person visiting the site? A person who may be in need and even a person who has been gang raped or witnessed a murder by a gang of youths? Not to mention how else you may appear to a newcomer. I don't think you you are being kind or considerate. In attempting to get back at me you have coloured your views and closed your doors to anyone who you could have, with some consideration shown a great deal of support. As this group is intended.

There is no reason why you should not have your gang in your own groups. But in a Support Group I do think you should give back that Support Group to people who are in need of Support.

I have known people who have experienced the awful gang orientated events I had spoken about to you, it is the reason I spoke out in the first place. I know of their grief, I know of their upset and distress that something like this - the way you are choosing to behave - can and will cause someone a great deal of distress should they happen upon this support group at this time.

Now it is entirely up to you whether you continue in this manner and in your behaviour toward me, but consider whilst you do so, you are disregarding any other.

I ask you now as human beings, as group members, but not as gang members, to please consider those poor people that would be distressed because of what is happening in this support group.

I reported this abuse of Breaths and asked it be removed and also asked that something be done that she will stop abusing us in this manner .
Sorry Kyleesnan your post was hijacked .

I have always heard that:
"If you have to explain yourself over and over, you are probably in the wrong"

It works both ways Pearl.

By the way did it occur to any of you that the reason I am still here is because there is no evidence pointing toward your accusations, there is however evidence that all of you are abusing DS site and rules of the road.

I truly meant no offense to anyone. I wanted to read the Rules of the Road to make sure I was not violating any of them, found it difficult to find and thought others may also want to refresh their memory. If I offended anyone, I apologize, that was not my intent.

I take offense with: ".......evidence that ALL of you are abusing.....". Yes, I can say
in my "heart of hearts" that I am doing the
right thing at this moment. The word ALL;
applies to every member. I do not and will
not believe ALL members are abusing the DS
site. Only myself and God knows what is in my
heart and mind. Thank you for your time.

So how do you think we can resolve this?

When I say you are and you say I am. Tomata Tomaaato

What can we agree on if we both let this drop right now?

Could everyone allow the Support Group to be a Support Group?

Could everyone be a little more aware of what may offend another?

Could maybe we talk by mailing each other personally when we feel someone has purposely offended them?

As there are 16+ of you I would have to communicate with each of you individually so this may take some time. But I am willing to do that, are each of you?

Quite Sassy I can be over it as soon as the gang can.

Actually it was not I that said that re not posting Sass I believe it was Donal and although I have been accused of being he as well, I assure you I am not he.

There is only one of me on DS site - aren't you lucky :O) x

I think that refers to an entirely different disagreement Sass that I really don't think we need to bring up at this point and really perhaps if it is something you are still holding on to we can discuss that in private mail later.

Any thoughts - any one on my reply 11?

I just think at this point perhaps we can all agree not to keep doing what we have been doing for 3 days or more?

The thing that started this off this time is my objecting to the word Gang. For very valid reasons but I apologise to you all if I came across too strongly.

However, I stand by what I have said concerning this as I do feel very strongly it is something that the gang needs to consider so that this support group is more welcoming and aware of others who may be more sensitive to this word.

In my pointing out that this can cause distress to some people I was laugh at, and rediculed and the support group became a bombardment of Gang posts.

I'm not saying you shouldn't have a joke. I am suggesting though that perhaps the group / gang just be a little more aware other peoples sensitivity. Again I do not think it is much to ask of a Support Group.

You are good Breathes! You can give with one hand and take with the other. And all in the same breath too.

My suggestion to you would to just not mention the gang word again if it offends.

Not one other person has complained so it must be just you.

You are the one that can settle this by just not mentioning it again.

If you aren't ready that is ok. Everyone has a right to make a choice and I believe that is what we all are trying to tell you.

I think you are missing my point entirely Pearl - Maybe just concentrate on my reply 11.

Nope, but thank you for your concern.