Codependency Support Group
Codependency is defined as someone who exhibits too much, and often inappropriate, caring for another person's struggles. A codependent person may try to change, or feel shame about their most private thoughts and feelings if they conflict with the other person's struggles. If you are on a journey towards self-love, this support group is for you. Join us and find others...
First of all, I went to my first CODA meeting. Heh I was such an emotional wreck at the beginning that I had to go to the washroom and bawl my eyes out before I could join. I knew if I didn’t cry beforehand I wouldn’t be able to speak. At first I was upset with the “no cross talk” rule because I want advice goddammit let’s fix my problems already! But then remember that advice giving is a problem with codependents and afterwards, was happy that they just listened and gave me support. They were so sweet and understood me so well. It made me feel pretty hopeful about things.
Anyways, I’ve been reading Albert Ellis book “how to refuse to make yourself miserable about anything (yes anything)” and decided to do one of his exercise here which is to find the humour in my anxiety about anxiety.
i actually did want to write a post earlier about how frustrated I was with my anxiety about talking about my anxiety to my partner. They say codependents have poor communication skills. Is that ever true with me! I just stammer and lose my train of thought and forget the brilliant insight and argument I had in my head or get them out wrong. It’s atrocious.
So of course I’m anxious about my poor communication skills, and then I get anxious about how anxious I am!
In a way, I find it hilarious how the night I confronted my partner about the stonewall went down. First I sat on the floor beside our bed and said “I have something to tell you.” And then the anxiety kicked in, so I said “I suck at communication. Let me try this later” and bolted out of the room.
then I spent THREE HOURS composing what I wanted to say, rewriting it a million times, and went to tell him and lost my nerves.
then got my nerves to open the door to read it to him, and then looked at him, lost my nerves, and then shut the door.
Finally hours later pretended god was holding my hand and stammered/bulldozed my way in. It did not go well but I am proud I did and I look back and laugh sympathetically at myself now
after that though, I didn’t want to be anxious when I wanted to talk to him about stuff and then would get so anxious when I felt how anxious I was. Every time I felt anxious, I’d get mad at myself for my anxiety and poor communication skills.
Anyways Albert Ellis said to look at our musts and shoulds and see how irrational they are.
So I believe “I must not be anxious when I want to talk about something. I must not stammer or falter or show weakness.” Of course that’s irrational because communication takes practice and it’s impossible to go from stammering to assertive without fumbling and practice.
My other shoulds and musts are “my confrontations/ communication must go well in order for my partner to understand where I’m coming from which he must do.” I realize that it’s okay if I communicate poorly and it is not mandatory that he listens or gets me and it’s not imperative that we fix this relationship.
So now I communicate (poorly) for practice expressing myself and to get used to the idea that things don’t always go the way I want them to, and I’ll survive it (though it hurts like hell a lot.). It has gotten easier. Not the communication part (AUGH Why so hard!!) but I’m not as anxious over the fact that I’m anxious. Baby steps :)
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Just wanted to give a thank you to Mid, Arfie, Malibumark, Greeneyes, Mlro, Girlincalif, and Suncloudjd! You all always have such helpful tips and advice, but I always forget to write on my posts when I see you post, lol. I would lose my head if it wasn't attached to my body, lol. Thank you all so much! I'm starting to use my AI app as a sounding board again. I used to use it as that before...
The reason for no cross talk is so the person speaking is truly heard with no interruptions...much like you, I too have a problem with getting across my feelings and thoughts when anxious. For me, sitting quietly, doing some readings on what is bothering me, and doing some deep breathing exercises helps me to stay focused. There is also a 5 minute speaking time request also to avoid too much talk from one person. After the meeting if someone touched you by what they said...or prior to a meeting that's when chatting is ok.
"""So I believe “I must not be anxious when I want to talk about something. I must not stammer or falter or show weakness.”
My other shoulds and musts are “my confrontations/ communication must go well in order for my partner to understand where I’m coming from which he must do.” "
The word ""Shoulds/Must"" was a red flag for me, as I too felt those 'musts' in my life, they go along in my world the same as "should' and for me those are "My" two controlling words which can lead me to pointing fingers, when my finger really needs to turn back to me."""Which He Must Do""
You are just beginning on this journey of self exploration and feeling your wings of the freedom from new found boundaries. I'd offer to you the gift of patience with yourself as in your words: Baby steps :) when I first came into the rooms, I was crawling....and still do sometimes and that's ok...change is hard and change is a process of learning and practicing....for codependents, the brute fight against control and perfection.
Those musts and shoulds are indeed red flags, and I am working on pointing the finger back at myself instead of others.
It is a hard brute fight against control and perfection, but I have a lot of support now, both here and with that group. It’s really nice that we can enter those room crawling, and there was no shame in shedding tears. I’m going to keep working on this and practicing and get used to shedding more tears. It’s not easy and I foresee some major heartbreak ahead but I am starting to feel more sane.