Chronic Pain Support Group
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Okay so- Im cooled down now enough to at least type this out. I really never get on here to vent but I need to....>> now.
So hope fully I can condense this down to short version.
I go in for my appt with Suboxone Doc. Started this about a month and a half ago....(been on Oxycodone for years for pain control) and the Suboxone has been working pretty darn well.
He says...." well...I think its time to start thinking about going down on the medicine." * NOW mind you, according to him this stuff was THE GREATEST THING NEXT TO F'ING SLICED F'ING BREAD ! * He said it can be taken forever if need be - works great for pain - it the mOST WONDERFUL drug of ALL the drugs in the laaaand.
SO WTF!!?? I asked him "well then what am I going to DO for pain control then - I DONT want to go back to taking an Opiate type med...wouldnt that be defeating the purpose to go off of this??!!" Then he said something that is beyond ridiculous... "ahhh you'll be okaaay... dooont woorrry...you worry TOO much!"
He said well you take too many meds as it is... ( he doesnt even have anything to do with any of my other care- he is SUBOXONE DOC ONLY!) So what the f does he care what I HAVE to do with my other situations?? Its none of his business! I'M THE ONE... TAKING ALL THE MEDS IF HE SEEs IT THAT WAY - ( he is anti med about everything - doesnt think a person should be on anything!) But thats HIS opinion! He is lucky that he doesnt have to do what I HAVE to do but its all on me - Its what I HAVE TO DO-- NOT HIM grrr it was like talkign to a BOARD! I was SO frustrated, he wouldnt listen to me. Every doc I have had would at least be open minded to listen to what I have to say- I couldnt believe ignorant he was. I said you just dont know what I have to go through... you dont get it. I have had to take meds for YEARS - it what I HAVE to do !!
So now he says "well you can go off of this because there are ALWAYS other options"... I said "WHA? What do you mean OTHER options!? " HE was SO in favor of the pain control that his other patients have had(with the Suboxone) blah fricken blah. He told me how great this stuff was- so tell me again now, WHY are we changing things??
Anyway...So I said "well I have tried EVERYTHING what do you mean OTHER options!?" He said again "there are other options" I said "WHAT>? What OTHER options are there??" I told him " I have tried everything and I dont think you understand what I am saying- you dont KNOW what I have been through in my life with pain." He says "Well there are ALWAYS other options." ( yes he said it again and we were goin round and round) So I said " Okay name another option because I HAVE TO HAVE a plan here, back up plan... I NEED to know."
He said again "there are just ... options." I said..." I have tried every type and class of meds- I know whats out there - and there ARE NOT "other meds" out there- just name me ONE ."
He said "NO... Im not going to give you one." mmmOkay ... yeah good stuff there. I said "because there ISNT one!" He said "well... I dont have to give you ONE..." I couldn't believe this stuuuupid conversation. So when I left I said..."you arent going to give me just one?" He said " NO>..."
So I know its because he didnt have a CLUE - he is one of those DR.s that is a do as I say and dont even think for yourself. Whatever... I dont have ANY respect for a Doc that doesnt listen to their patients AND wont admit when they dont know something. its as easy as ** well let me check it out... and... I wiIl get back to you on that...I can understand why you would want to know whats next- that is IF we are going to change anything with the Suboxone.** He is NOT going to say "I dont know." I dont respect that. He just argued with me.
AHHH>>>> stupid is as stupid does and stupid does what stupid does... cant fight stupid. :(
So hope fully I can condense this down to short version.
I go in for my appt with Suboxone Doc. Started this about a month and a half ago....(been on Oxycodone for years for pain control) and the Suboxone has been working pretty darn well.
He says...." well...I think its time to start thinking about going down on the medicine." * NOW mind you, according to him this stuff was THE GREATEST THING NEXT TO F'ING SLICED F'ING BREAD ! * He said it can be taken forever if need be - works great for pain - it the mOST WONDERFUL drug of ALL the drugs in the laaaand.
SO WTF!!?? I asked him "well then what am I going to DO for pain control then - I DONT want to go back to taking an Opiate type med...wouldnt that be defeating the purpose to go off of this??!!" Then he said something that is beyond ridiculous... "ahhh you'll be okaaay... dooont woorrry...you worry TOO much!"
He said well you take too many meds as it is... ( he doesnt even have anything to do with any of my other care- he is SUBOXONE DOC ONLY!) So what the f does he care what I HAVE to do with my other situations?? Its none of his business! I'M THE ONE... TAKING ALL THE MEDS IF HE SEEs IT THAT WAY - ( he is anti med about everything - doesnt think a person should be on anything!) But thats HIS opinion! He is lucky that he doesnt have to do what I HAVE to do but its all on me - Its what I HAVE TO DO-- NOT HIM grrr it was like talkign to a BOARD! I was SO frustrated, he wouldnt listen to me. Every doc I have had would at least be open minded to listen to what I have to say- I couldnt believe ignorant he was. I said you just dont know what I have to go through... you dont get it. I have had to take meds for YEARS - it what I HAVE to do !!
So now he says "well you can go off of this because there are ALWAYS other options"... I said "WHA? What do you mean OTHER options!? " HE was SO in favor of the pain control that his other patients have had(with the Suboxone) blah fricken blah. He told me how great this stuff was- so tell me again now, WHY are we changing things??
Anyway...So I said "well I have tried EVERYTHING what do you mean OTHER options!?" He said again "there are other options" I said "WHAT>? What OTHER options are there??" I told him " I have tried everything and I dont think you understand what I am saying- you dont KNOW what I have been through in my life with pain." He says "Well there are ALWAYS other options." ( yes he said it again and we were goin round and round) So I said " Okay name another option because I HAVE TO HAVE a plan here, back up plan... I NEED to know."
He said again "there are just ... options." I said..." I have tried every type and class of meds- I know whats out there - and there ARE NOT "other meds" out there- just name me ONE ."
He said "NO... Im not going to give you one." mmmOkay ... yeah good stuff there. I said "because there ISNT one!" He said "well... I dont have to give you ONE..." I couldn't believe this stuuuupid conversation. So when I left I said..."you arent going to give me just one?" He said " NO>..."
So I know its because he didnt have a CLUE - he is one of those DR.s that is a do as I say and dont even think for yourself. Whatever... I dont have ANY respect for a Doc that doesnt listen to their patients AND wont admit when they dont know something. its as easy as ** well let me check it out... and... I wiIl get back to you on that...I can understand why you would want to know whats next- that is IF we are going to change anything with the Suboxone.** He is NOT going to say "I dont know." I dont respect that. He just argued with me.
AHHH>>>> stupid is as stupid does and stupid does what stupid does... cant fight stupid. :(
i have one more week nanna! wahooo! hopefully i can convice the pain clinic in the on visit they are willing to give me to put me on it wahoo! but the clinic i'm going to has a rep of taking people off opiates but he is licenced to perscirbe it so hopefully he dosn't consider it an opiate ya think?
so what are you gonna do lladyfair? are you gonna try to find another doc to stay on it or do you think your gonna give one of your other opiates a try? or you gonna go back to this doc and give him a pice of your mind? keep us posted, i'm thinking of you!
You have an appt today with a new doc?? Please woudl you let us know how it went?? Again I think I understand what you are dealing with and yeah... it really sucks doesnt it??
Your mouth hangin open reading this-- I KNOW I couldnt believe it either! I kept arguing telling him that he DIDNT understand...and ARENT ANY other alternatives and like I said prev... He COULDNT give me one! LOL I mean how ridiculous... it was like talking back and forth with a kid.
Hey Ray ? You have an appt coming up?
I decided that I will continue on ( he has kept me on the same dose and I wont see him for another month) so no changes for awhile. IF he changes dose and I dont like it...at least I have more time to find another Sub doc. I will try and find someone who can RX Sub and also understands PAIN MANAGEMENT!! To be honest I dont think he understands CP.
Well anyway...I have a game plan at least. ..
Also again KRIS...I appreciate your support so much! I dont even think you know how much ... SO really thank you ..everything will be ok doll!
How are you doing!? Are you taking care of yourself!?