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how do you g.et a dr to listen?

loralp
loralp
i really need help here. my dr just will not listen to me. i read the post about the high metabolism and i have that problem. my previous dr (who moved a year ago) knew this and did all she could. my new dr is so anal about narcotic pain meds he cut my meds in half and wont listen to why i need more.
when i had been with him for about 2-3 months i was on 10/325 vicodins for daily pain.. i was up to 10-12 a day with quite a few refills left. stupid me, i went in to see him and told him i wanted to discuss a different pain med as i was concerned with how many vicodins i was taking.( i had been on the 6 1/2 years) i was also on morphine sulphate E.R. 15mg for base line pain.i GAVE him a full script of vicodin. he put me on oxycodone 5mg 4x a day. all was good.... for a while. till he desided he wanted me off the morphine sulphate, just to see how i did so he said.I tried, i really did but after 2 months i told him i could not function due to the pain. he put me back on it but cut the oxy down to 2 a day!! he worried about addiction he says!! i went off 12 vics a day, morphine, oxycodone, all without withdrawls. he will not believe i need more pain meds despite what my prior records show, regardless of what i say, regardless of what other drs. say!!

now to top it all off i spilled half my pills down the bathroom sink! about 27 pills. i called to see if i could get a partial refill and he denied it!! i went in and talked to the pain management woman to see if she would talk to him for me and i assume the answer was no since they refused to called me back or even take my calls!!! i am so pissed!!!!!! i finally went to the E.R. told a half truth and was able to get enough pain pills to get me thru.

please help me. who do i complain to? how do i get him to listen? i live in a small town so getting a new dr isnt easy but i am going to try, i just hope im not going from the frying pan to the fire.
ihavepkd
ihavepkd
It's illegal for doctors to take old schedule II and probably schedule III medication from patients, even to purportedly dispose of it (there is no legal way or DEA method that allows doctors to do this). Any doctor who tells you otherwise is lying. It's the same reason a reliable pharmacy won't take back your old schedule II medication; by law they can't (although the DEA is working on amending the law to allow pharmacies and pharmacies only to accept old schedule II narcotics for proper disposal as an effort to keep them off the street; the rules/law has NOT passed yet). About the only exception would be temporary and in the case of an emergency when a patient is threatening to take all their pills and commit suicide, and the doctor sure as hell better be calling 911 at the same time!).

But despite the law, doctors take medications from patients (just like honor's pain clinic did) all the time. Your doctor may have legitimately flushed the medication down the toilet. But then again, you'll never know what happened. Did they keep it for other patients? Sell it out the back door? Treat their own addiction (thus the opiophobe...sometimes the doctor who won't treat a pain patient because they're addicted themselves).

The DEA Drug Diversion program has some fascinating reading on the lengths doctors will go to divert drugs, hundreds of thousands of tablets worth. Click on their link to doctor prosecution; it's scary. And these are the professionals we rely on for our treatment (or rather nontreatment)?! Alas, their files only date back to 2007; I suspect the more interesting reading is in the more recent files...if they would put those on line!
ZAZAS
ZAZAS
My new doctor just blew me off too. I wasn't even asking for narcotics, didn't want them. He is just trying to say, I have nothing wrong with me. Back to square one, it took years to get a proper diagnosis. I hate these doctors. However, I have to go to the free clinic and don't have the option of getting another doctor right now.
deleted_user
deleted_user
ZaZas, That is ridiculous! I don't get what's wrong with Doc's this days! I hope that you can get some help.
deleted_user
deleted_user
I am a RN and I see a pain management Doctor. That is what you need. Trust me the regular doctors won't and essentially give you what you need. They are closely watched by the DEA and cannot prescribe so much pain medication. Get yourself a pain management doctor as soon as you can. You can thank the government and all the drug addicts for regualr docs being so carefully watched.
Janet
deleted_user
deleted_user
Carefully type your immediate complaints and concerns, recent history, what you would like to focus on, and any questions. Make it short and concise. Print it out, give it to the nurse or receptionist, and ask that it be placed on the front of the chart to be read before the doc sees you.

If a patient is lucky, (google for "doctor visit, patient interruption")they may get 12 seconds to talk before the doc interrupts, some as few as 4 seconds. If things drift, refer the doc to the paper.

Dress well (I can't stress this enough), take a relative of close friend in the room with you. Hopefully it will dampen his ardour to run over you.

-Snake
loralp
loralp
hi all as you know i have been gone so this is the first time i could check responses. WOW!! so to answer or respond; it was a full bottle of pills that i gave the dr. he disposed of them in the medical waste, i watched him do it. part of the reason i did it (besides taking to much for MY comfort) was to show him i could be trusted. crazy as it sounds there was a story about the pills and the sink. the phone rand so i set them next to the sink.( dumb i know.not thinking) when i got back i forgot they were there and started brushing my teeth and had the water running. my sink doesnt drain right and when i went to set my toothbrush down thats when the pills knocked over into the sink filled with water. i didnt even realize what it was that spilled at first. i freaked! i saved a couple but some went down the drain most were so watery that they were ruined. i am looking for a new primary physician as well as a pain management dr. in seattle. i know its going to take research and time but after all this dr has puy me thru i dont care. i hope when i DO find a P.M. i Seatttle i can get a 90 day supply instead of having to drive over there every month to pick up the perscription, that is a problem financially but i will cross that bridge when i get to it.

thanks for all your advice and help.

love and prayers of pain free days or at least pain free moments to you all