Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Support Group
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) describes a sense of exhaustion and post-exertion malaise, even when you have gotten enough rest and sleep. The disease is characterized by six months of incapacitating fatigue experienced as profound exhaustion and extremely poor stamina, and problems with concentration and short-term memory. The cause is unknown, but it is a...
I've been giving myself B12 injections for years, a full syringe 3 times a week. I stopped for a few years now because I didn't feel much better and on my blood tests my B 12 is so ridiculously high.
For good sleep I take 40 mgs. doxepin, 1/2 to 1 ambien and 4 mg Klonopin. I want to get my klonopin dosage down to 2 mgs but it's a hard med to taper.
I did have a knowledgeable CFS doc who prescribed the 3 times a week B12 dosage.
Yes I got lucky this time. However its taken 15 years battling Endometriosis and then ME and fighting with many doctors along the way for this to happen. I'm amazed that with so much research about ME happening recently that so many doctors still choose to remain in the dark about it.
I understand that B12 isnt going to work for everyone. I did discover something interesting though that even though B12 levels can seem fine in your blood tests it is actually the levels in your cerebrospinal fluid that give a more accurate level. Often those levels remain low even when the levels are normal or high in your blood work. People may find this link interesting to read in relation to this.
http://drjonathancollin.com/letter_B12.html
Thanks for the advice on what to use for good sleep. I will go and look up what those are called here in NZ because often the names differ here.
I am using cobalamin but I did get a methylcobalamin shot at a Natureopath's office and it was much, much better. I can't get ahold of any to have at home, I think it needs to be blended or something. I would highly recommend methylcobalamin.
Of those meds I listed, I take them at night and have a good sleep. Doxepin is the king of good sleep, an old time antidepressant that hasn't had any horrible side effects in the decades it has been on the market. Plus it gives me a bit of an antidepressant lift even at such a low dose (minimum dosage is 75 mgs). It also got me through menopause with zero symptoms, says my regular doc.
I'm surprised there aren't many informed doctors either. CFS groups have sent out doctor packages and tried to educate them but it didn't take.
Featherjack is right though its hard to educate Doctors when the vast majority of them are convinced ME is a mental condition rather than a physiological condition. Even with all the evidence coming out regarding it.
In my research over the last couple of days I did come across an interesting book called "Reviving The Broken Marionette" by Maija Haavisto. Through consulting with various doctors that specialise in treating ME she has put together a book listing meds and treatments that patients have success with. You can purchase the book on Amazon or there is a free abridged version here
http://www.brokenmarionettebook.com/rbabridged.pdf
I found it very helpful and others might also.
The first doctors that I went to were at a clinic specifically for cfs/fibro. They worked on my thyroid, adrenal glands, sleep, hormones, and nutrition. They prescribed methylcobolamin (B-12) for me to take at home (1cc 2x per week). They also had me take nutritional IVs which contained vitamin C, the B vitamins, D-Ribose, magnesium, trace minerals, and Folic Acid. Both the shots and IVs were hugely helpful. For my thyroid, I took a Rx of T3/T4. For adrenal glands, I took a low dose of hydrocortisone and then later a supplement called Adaptacin which is a booster. My doctor also regulated my estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone. For sleep, I initially took Ambien, but now I take trazodone which is generic and works as well for me. It's been around for a long time and is considered to be safe, although who really knows.
Additional supplements that I take are Acetyl-L-Carnitine, N-Acetyl-Cysteine, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Zinc, Co-Q10, Spirulina and/or Chlorella, DHEA/Pregnenolone and digestive enzymes. It sounds like a lot and it is, but I was too sick to function and felt lucky to have discovered this clinic. It was all worth it, and I was able to continue working as a teacher for three more years before I was able to claim retirement benefits.
Hope you can find some things that help you, and I wish you all the best...
Sanni
ghostrocker, pool therapy can help, though you did say pt was difficult to obtain. I also take a transdermal of ritalin that's working well enough, although if your in NZ, I understand that's only prescribed for adhd. I've heard the laws are very strict.
Trimipine (sp?), trade name Surmontil helped me sleep. I found it, for myself, to have less s/e than doxipine, though they are from the same category (tca's). I use tizanadine now, a antispasmatic muscle relaxant. Very sedating, I take 4-8 mg and reliably sleep. A bonus is it really helps fibro stuff. (Also called zanaflex.)
I didn't know one could self administer b12. A friend suggested them.