I know I often have the same questions about where to meet decent women. I have had better luck online dating I guess. Just a suggestions but are the men online contacting you or are you searching and contacting them? I think, and my opinion, that women get so many emails and flirts through online dating sites that they overlook some good ones. Maybe if you were controlling the contact and seeking out men you find interesting you would have better luck? And I don't think it comes off as desperate at all. I have had 8 first dates since my divorce and all of them from women who contact me first.

For bad advice i was told to meet women go to the produce section of the grocery store and to meet men hang out in Lowes or Home Depot. Now this to me seems creepy and desperate lol

where are the men? the men are either working or at home castling. a few are out and about and even fewer are joiners or adventurers depending on the age group.

you have to get in his head and imagine where the few social men would be. there are so many different kinds of men that the range of places is very wide.

Don't want another one, and still trying to figure out why anyone would

Yeah, I have to go along with Faithful. I know the older I get, the less I want to be out and about. The older we get, usually the more responsibility we have, so at the end of the day, we just want to come home and crash.

I always hear about things happening (the really good relationships) by chance. They met at a wedding or met at a counseling group, or a friend introduced us.

I have done the online route and I think it's a lot of sifting through chaff to find the wheat (the other way around doesn't sound right in this context). If you are not willing to put in the time and work (and have a thick skin to boot), then the online dating scene isn't for you.

I find it ironic that you think the men have it easier, when I am sure we three would say it's the opposite. The grass is always greener....

My current wife found me online. If your self-esteem isn't up to it, online dating can be very frustrating and upsetting. i am sure it has even gotten worse in the years since i have done it.

I think the best advice is to not go looking for it. When you are ready, it will certainly find you. The key word here is ready.

I'm hoping for the online thing, myself. It makes more sense, exp if the men are working and castling, to find them on line, instead of me, hanging around the fruits and veggies, or drills and plywood. :)

Everywhere I go, I see men with their wives. :) So, I figure I have better odds online.

Good luck, Rose. There are some good dating sites and some really bad ones. I hope I'm on a GOOD one...lol.

Check out "meetup.com". It's not a dating site; it's where you can find groups of people who do things you like to do (like go to museums, or snow-boarding, or dancing, or whatever). They do have singles groups too.

It's a lot better venue because you can show up at something you like and then see if you are attracted to anybody. With online dating, you can spend a lot of time getting to know someone and then you meet but there's no chemistry.

satcom66 said what I was going to! In fact, I'm going to a brunch on Sunday with a Meetup group for singles. I'll let you know how it went;)

meetup.com is pretty active in my area. I belong to three groups: Outdoor Adventures, Over 40 & Happy Hour.

I don't specifically attend looking for potential dates, but just to get out, socialize and do something I enjoy. If I happen to meet someone and it clicks, all the better.

I've enjoyed the groups and people, especially Outdoor Adventures. Very large and active group here in CNY.

Whoa, wait a minute, I'm a guy, often described as hot and a great catch, I get out and about and cant find a woman that is either not homeless, crazy, a drunk, freak, psycho, having a low self esteem, or a suffering from a plethora of other issues. I'm "finding" these women online, at social events, and just out and about.

So I pose the same question: Where the hell are all the decent women and are there any left?

They quit looking ouside themselves for happiness and found contentment in their liives. They are not out there at all. They're too busy making lives for themslves to risk it on just anyone.

"Whoa, wait a minute, I'm a guy, often described as hot and a great catch, I get out and about and cant find a woman that is either not homeless, crazy, a drunk, freak, psycho, having a low self esteem, or a suffering from a plethora of other issues. I'm "finding" these women online, at social events, and just out and about.

So I pose the same question: Where the hell are all the decent women and are there any left? "

Great, we're the same age. I was hoping that it wouldn't be too bad in our age group. I haven't dated in about 10 years.

Way to uplift and spread hope! ;)

Sorry - 35 - 45 age bracket are screwed!

Honestly they are out there, if your looking you will have to look hard and don't settle for less than your worth - I feel its the major reason we are all on this board.

Here are some "hot spots" to uplift you more!
If you dont mind kids - check out chucky cheese - a lot of single moms there - I know the pizza sucks and its kind of sick to go to chucky cheese to pick up a woman but that's where they are hanging out!

Also grocery stores, churches (yuk), volunteer events, bars (yuk), on line dating sites (eh), parks, etc. My grandson (I was very young) is a girl magnet, so if you got a cute nephew or niece (2-4 yo) take them to a park. Better than a puppy!

Meetup.com is a great way to get out there and meet people.

Ladies - were out there looking - just smile ans say hi
Men - they are out there looking - just smile and say hi

I know this isn't a dating site nor meant to be used as such.
We are / have all been looking for something though and I cant stress enough that if your not happy with and love yourself you will only repeat the same mistakes that brought you here.

I met someone new online, i met a lot of someones online, most were just like me some were hurting some were getting on with it, some were just looking for a friend some were out there looking for a freebie. I wouldnt even know how to go out to a bar and try to meet people. the man i met online is a wonderful person, he is very well suited to me on many levels, my problem is that i dont think i am emotionally ready for a new relationship even tho he is. I was after all married for a long long time, things are totally different now, and to tell the truth i was young and hadnt really been out and about nor been in any other relationships when i met my ex. right now i am struggling with it all, I think i need more time to grow in myself, but am also afraid to lose someone so special
If you do try online just be careful and take it slow. most important be honest it wont pay not to anyways
good luck ;o)

Woot! Glad to hear it. At least you have some concrete motivation right in front of you.

Just revel in the idea for a little while before deciding to do anything.

"I cant stress enough that if your not happy with and love yourself you will only repeat the same mistakes that brought you here."

Bingo! Late one night my xgf called me, crying her eyes out and telling me she hates her life and I was the only good thing in it. She has three wonderful 11 year old triplet boys, a very nice 2500 square foot house totally paid for, good friends, close family, etc...

Yet all she did was complain about almost every aspect of her life. She was looking for me to make her happy, and frankly it just wasn't possible and emotionally draining to boot. I just couldn't live up to the pedestal she put me on. I put my pants on one leg at a time.