Deal! MK!!!! Thanks

they are cruel and know exactly what to say and what buttons to push to make them have more or look better. we have to believe in ourselves and heal from this madness.. you are so much better then he will ever know

It's manipulation and ego at its finest - best to walk away from it and don't believe it.

You still trust his opinion of you. STOP! Joybean72 is nuts, not you!

TD...how many times in one day do I HAVE to give you the finger?!? LMAO! :-p

You are PSYCHO, you married that loser. Ok he bounced how many checks? There you go, just add it up and remember he is an idiot. I lost my mind for 21 yrs. I found it again and am enjoying having it back, you too can be like me.

I know EXACTLY what youre talking about.

Was he abusive to you? Mine was to me...maybe its the personality of a person who takes abuse to go through this? I dunno, just a thought.

I haven't talked to my stbx since Friday. He was just crazy with the crap he was trying to tell me. So I haven't talked to him.No text, and only read the email about the kiddies and when he was going to get them. I feel a little better.

well diem.....every time i try and talk to cleopatra she screams harassment.....i haven't had a convo since aug.....and since then i was only trying to contact her to sign the papers.............alas.........people all too often loose focus.

the self-esteem thing is so tough. The abusive husband's treatment was easier to get over. This man, packing up as we speak, says I am not worth raising a family with. Now, that hurts..., especially since I have 2 children already.
Keep your head up, and read affirmations each day. It does give a littl boost. You ARE loved!

I just tell him... I am psycho... I learned from the best! And, don't close your eyes at night! HAHA! See if that doesn't stick in their memories!

diemjs, your not nuts, this is codependent behavior at its core. We let them define us and tell us who we are. (usually verbal, emotional, and/or physical abusers.) We buy what they are selling and give up ourselves. Thats part of the cycle, if they can manipulate us in to believing that we are the problem then that takes the attention off of them and they don't have to look at themselves. They are the Victim and it's your fault. It's classic abuse cycle stuff..... You might check out some of these other support groups and see if any of it rings true.. I belong to them....

http://dailystrength.org/c/Codependency/forum

http://dailystrength.org/c/Physical-Emotional-Abuse/support-group

I hope this helps...

Wow, reading what LouieJ wrote on here REALLY helped me.My ex when we were together and still to THIS day 3 years later has the "I'am the victim" thing going on.I'am always wrong, I never do things right, I discust him....and on and on it goes. I let and allowed him to do this to me because I just did not know any differnt.Did not have the best role models myslef for parents so I could not really compare it to a healthy marriage.11 years....day in and day out..with little breaks of like 3 days or something where things were mellow with him and I.Its hard still 3 years later to not let him get to me....but each day away from him makes it easier to know what is abusive stuff and what is not.Thank you again LouieJ for writting what you wrote....read it at a time when I really needed to read it.xxxx

Thank you all for your responses. I know I am not any of those things he calls me. If anyone is a psycho, HE IS!!!! Thanks for the encouragement.

Because maybe you figure since he knows you better than anyone else he might be right? You also need to keep in mind that he knows how to push your buttons so THAT may be why he says those things to you.