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1PhoenixRising1
On klonopin and ambien and I've had to up my dosages. In the past if I didn't have klonopin I'd drink. But the klonopin works well for my anxiety and ambien for my sleep. I know I can't stop cold turkey because 1. I need those meds for my symptoms 2. Withdrawal.
So where is the line? I'm uncomfortable with the increasing dosages I'm taking lately...and I always fear running out or not being able to get some more because I don't have insurance. I was prescribed .5 mg klonopin as needed...45 pills to last a mont...I take up to 4 mg in a day sometimes....since me husband has a higher dose script..I've just needed more and more.
So where is the line? I'm uncomfortable with the increasing dosages I'm taking lately...and I always fear running out or not being able to get some more because I don't have insurance. I was prescribed .5 mg klonopin as needed...45 pills to last a mont...I take up to 4 mg in a day sometimes....since me husband has a higher dose script..I've just needed more and more.
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The Wolf
I don't know that klonopin and ambien fit the criteria for psychoative substances. And it's not unusual to increase the dose of a medication to continue receiving benefit from it. I think the best thing to do is talk to your doc and get a new prescription to match your use. And of course stop using any medication by tapering off very carefully. I can think of several meds where you start at a low dose and increase it over time to achieve the maximum benefit. It doesn't follow that you are an addict or weak. Doc time!
Why did you start taking a higher dose? Did you really need to jump from .5mg to 4mg? Couldn't you have just maybe taken 1.0mg?
I think you are tetering on the edge of being addicted. The more you take, the more you'll need. I I know it sucks but you have to taper back. Start slow by maybe .5-1.0mg at a time. If your doctor can help talk to him/her but understand it may keep them from providing refills when you need them. Just FYI
Good luck and let me know how it goes. Laura
When you make choices, that are not in your own best interest.
Whatever the addiction, healthy people do the "best" for themselves, the addicted person, makes choices - not benefiting, obsessive and compulsion.. hope that helps : )
Being aware and questioning - awesome! I do agree, Talk with pdoc for sure...
The Wolf
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Great sex
Large pizza : )
Thanks for letting me vent!
Thanks for clarifying for me. Maybe I posted in haste. My understanding of addiction is if you make choices based on want and not necessarily what's right or good for you/anyone then you may be addicted.
I agree with you Wolf, once and addict always an addict. Used to go to AlaTeen years ago and that's what they taught me. I have an addictive personality so it's always a challenge to maintain my prescribed dosages especially with my pain meds.
Good luck Phoenix. I hope you figure it out and it works out well for you.
My husband is prescribed 1.0 mg per day. It has become less effective as he has developed a tolerance, but he can't take a higher dose each day because he has no way to get extra. He supplements the klonepin with Tylenol PM. It concerns me because he takes 18 Tylenol PM pills per day. Six at bedtime and two dosages of 6 during the course of the day. I am concerned about his kidney.
I have to keep his klonepin in a safe and control how much he takes. He agrees to it. Otherwise, he used to pick his pills up from the pharmacy and took one month's worth in two days. He liked the high. Also, he has a severe problem with insomnia and enjoyed getting deep, deep sleep for a couple days.
My husband does have an addictive personality. He has had severe addictions to Vicodin/Percoset/Oxycodone. For about a year he had a crack addiction. He had a drinking problem for quite some time. Therefore, I am relieved he is only abusing Tylenol.
I recently talked to him about telling his pdoc that his current med regime is not working - since he has developed a tolerance and is abusing Tylenol to supplement the Klonepin. I suggested he might use a sedative or tranquilizer. I don't believe they are addictive, and I believe they may be stronger than klonepin. However, I don't think they help with anxiety, which my husband also suffers from.
I hope your discussion w/ you pdoc is fruitful !!! Just like I hope my husband's is too.
The definition of addiction is the inability to quit even after you really want to. That's what we were told in rehab.
So you may very well have a physical and psychological addiction.
If you want to quit it's time to talk to your doctor. I don't think you should try to quit cold turkey.