We love you hanna that's the point....besides you know as well as I do that these moods don't last forever and that it can change for the better so that's why we try. Don't do it.........suicide is a permanent fix to temporary problems...hope you get to feeling better soon.

Princess

There IS not point.

Paragon, you only say that because you're depressed too......But what about the people who aren't We love you guys.....if both of you left us we'd be sad.

Princess

i am feeling the same way hanna . so we will fight it together.. it is hard i know .. but i also know that this will pass. so hold my hand and we will get through this together.. ok. i know that i cant leave my family and i am sure you cant leave yours.. big hugs ..love marie

Paragon is a bit right I think, if you consider humanism from a purely biological standpoint. Then your only purpose is to have sex; want my phone number? ROFL

On the other hand, we can devote ourselves to an altruistic ideal that our being can somehow contribute something to the world. I think that is just an Ideal, but sometimes ideals can become true.

don't beat yourself up. You have a very long life ahead and plenty of times to do things that better the world, maybe have fun doing it. Simply being there for someone could be a positive thing to do.

the point is just to live until you die... hanna your question just made me think... see what happens? useless crap comes out :)
*head hurts*

Hanna,

Your a MOM!!!! You have children to take care of and love, nuture and educate....be a role model to and most of all be a loving wife or girlfriend or partner! I don't work either, and sometimes I feel like this as well....hey , I know!!!! How bout I come over for a visit and we can chat some more!!!!

Hanna,I posted a topic a few days ago..about our intrinsic value as human beings....creatures of the Universe,with meaning and purpose we may not understand...the second half of my Topic,was being a usefull and contributing part of society.....I'm as stuck as you are ,on these answers.

Sheer defiance! :)

Try and reach the end of a day first...where you FEEL that that day felt good for a change...even in the slightest way.
I'm sure you've struggled through much worse, so you know that a turn-around can produce unexpected positivity.
I had it shit for ages too.I wouldn't listen to optimists till I became a reticent one meself.

hanna,i dont work my kids are grown,hell i cant even clean my own home. my body doesnt work i am too sick with other illnesss.i am useless .i contribute nothing yet i will continue to go on because my family still needs me as does yours you are loved .you are so young and beautiful with young children. who need you .this will pass. big hugs ..marie

Thanks for all of the replies.

I'm not suicidal...I was just asking.