hi Mike, are you bipolar?

Can I ask why you've been replying "what is it that watches all of this? " on a number of threads?

oic, it's a quote from you're site The True You, a return to happiness.

maybe you want to provide support in a less cryptic way?

Hi and Welcome Mike... This is a great board for bipolar.... Big hug....x

i was bi polar.. i looked beyond it.

to take a moment and look at what is looking at and aware of a depression..even depression has to be illuminated by something.. what is that something? what it is that sees the depression.. what makes it appear.. if you are depressed.. what part of you is watching? what part is aware.. look

Bipolar is a brain chemistry treatable physical disorder .. No one is watching ... Was bipolar ? I am bipolar since diagnosed ... People on this site are bipolar that's why we joined this group .... Your post confuses me....

I was bi polar too.. going from one state to the next yes.. i get it. Then i looked deeply deeply at this question.. and i ask you to do the same..

Look deeply to see if Mike exists?

start there..

I'm assuming Mike isn't on meds now that you've "looked beyond bipolar?"

If I looked more deeply I would probably fall in. I am bipolar 1 and have been most of my life. It doesn't go away no matter how hard we try or how deeply we think. Looking deeply into yourself is a good thing and can help us to cope and understand. But medication and therapy are always best in the end. It keeps us more stable so we can even see our true selves. Just saying.....

Yes , medication and therapy is good.. I needed it to stable life. But there is a way to clear the board, to get past the depression. Ok , here is what i noticed. There was a time, a moment when suddenly that voice that whispers to us.. you know the one.. "mike your such a fool" "what are you gonna do now mike" that voice.. ??

Instead of listening as if that voice is talking to you.. watch that voice, almost like you just appeared here on earth and you are hearing it.. look at it,

that voice is not you... you are not your thoughts. You are not a person.

Something watches the voice? something watches depression..

To say, i am depressed.. something is aware that you are not right, a something that IS RIGHT.. IS OPEN PEACE is aware that there is something off.. what is it , what is that something that watches the whole scene. what is it that looks at all of this and says. i am bipolar.

All emotions are illuminated by the light of presence, of pure aware presence , your true you is that illumination.

sorry Mike, this makes no sense to me.

It sounds a mix of New Age stuff and some parts of Jungian theory and Buddhism but taken literally.

What are you actually trying to do here?

This 'sounds' like someone off of meds to me and I mean that in the kindest way.... Often people can do 'okay' off of meds for a time but usually the disorder comes back to kick your butt sooner or later...
Of course we need tools other then medication and we need to participate in our own healing... if this is working for you that's great Mike... I hope you don't close any doors though on yourself...
I do believe in awakenings as well however again I don't like to close doors...
big hug....xo

I like to write too but definitely not when I'm unstable or episodic because I've reread some of that stuff I've written and no, nuh-uh, not clear, not what I want to say aloud. I believe in the spiritual aspects of this illness and 'awakenings' too but I know I need medication and therapy to function in society and there's nothing wrong with that, you know.

no meds for now 4 years. suppose i were to say that you are complete now.. all that is here is .. what is happening.. all perfect amazing , a something that is unspeakable..yet.. is everything.. a oneness..

this is not spiritual.. spiritual indicates a YOU obtaining a place of peace.. then its still a YOU in peace.. that fades ..

no this is.. just what is.. what is here.. trees appear, chair appears, thoughts happen, music plays.. awareness.. is being a chair, trees , music etc.. there is no YOU. just awareness appearing as a you, as a chair as all. its that simple.. no goals to place to get to get better.

i know this is very odd thinking.. i have searched for years.. this is the truth of who we are.. not even truth.. just a resounding endless.. being, appearing as all..

again..look deeply to see if you exist.

Mike, if you look deeply you will see that no one here has understood what you are saying. That you haven't actually engaged with us and you are continuing a monologue with yourself.

You can either take the view we are stupid, we are being perverse or that you aren't making sense.

But I think whatever you will see that saying the same thing over and over again is unlikely to get people to understand.

Mike you are rambling and making no real sense. it has been proven over and over that bipolar is a medical disease with phschiatric symptoms with which we need help while the medications try to rebalance the physical side. they go hand in hand. we have all looked deeply inside but when mania/dysphoria takes over what we see is not the only truth. the main truth is that bipolar exists as a condition which can be helped with medication and therapy and various other things like music, exercise diet etc. that is fundamental to our well being. as mark said you seem to have a mix of a few different belief systems all thrown together to come up with little sense. most of us have studied and researched and taken the best that we can from that work. perhaps you could try and do the same. it will make your life a lot easier to deal with things as they arise. there is no blanket 'cure'.