Bipolar Disorder Support Group

Bipolar disorder is not just a single disorder, but a category of mood disorders marked by periods of abnormally high energy and euphoria, often accompanied by bouts of clinical depression. This is the place to talk about your experience with bipolar disorder, learn from others' experiences, and find support.

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tats69 05/20/2010

"All that we are arises with our thoughts."

"With our thoughts we make the world." Buddha

Where does this place us in the grand scheme of things if we have a thought disorder???

I wholeheartedly believe in these quotes. I get stuck on them though and lose my understanding and how I fit into them. I end up feeling very bad, like I'm causing some of my bipolar disorder.

I could use some help getting a better understanding and insight on all of this.....does anyone get what I am trying to say here???

deleted_user 05/20/2010

Hey there,

I totally get what you are saying; when we are ill, we are vulnerable to negative thoughts. When we are in a negative place, we are going to think similarly, and hence things will spiral out of control, leading us to an even darker place. A place that I have been many times. The key is learning new skills to get us from spiralling to that darker place, even we are vulnerable.

tommymott 05/20/2010

I would say that with our thoughts we PERCEIVE the world, but we don't create it. I do think that a positive attitude is best even if it doesn't change our circumstances in itself. Our perception of reality has a big effect. I think the quotes given are rather grandiose and self-serving, as are many religious quotes. And prone to misinterpretation since any quote of the Buddha is 2,500 years old. I take from these sayings that I do have an effect and a place in the world that is supremely important to me. If we don't get hung up on what appears to be a literal meaning then we can appreciate these things better. I believe that our BP is part of us. We don't cause it but we do have a lot to making it better or worse. We just have to work out what's best for us.

tats69 05/20/2010

I must get hung up on the literal tommy. Gets me into predicaments like this.

You shed alot of light on the subject for me tommy, thank you!

dancingd 05/20/2010

I like what tommy said..I agree that our thoughts can influence us..but then again

SHIT HAPPENS

Things that we can't control..a great cosmic tidal wave that can sweep us away regardless of our state of mind.

Cammiecat 05/20/2010

I always get caught up in the literal too. When I read a book saying that I needed to change the way I was thinking if I wanted to get better, I felt horrible because I thought that it was blaming me for the way I felt.... I was really sick at the time and the book was worth shit. I'm a lot better now that I've thrown the book away. I feel a lot better.

tats69 05/20/2010

That's what got me too Cammie. I felt that I was to blame for most things that were happening. Ironic, I don't feel that way when good things are happening!!

Good point dancing.....thanks!

deleted_user 05/21/2010

With my thoughts I made me a meaty sandwich - Buddha

deleted_user 05/21/2010

I did reply but I accidentally posted on another thread, as you do - Jesus Christ

deleted_user 05/21/2010

tats, Jesus said it too...

yes i do believe it.

i think we have a harder time getting there with the thought intrusion...

if you apply the principals of meditation and positive mantra and affirmations (also buddhist tradition.), you will find the thoughts if not totally controlled can be muted.

I am safe
I am healthy
I am great
Life is good
Life is fabulous
I am alright

repeat until lunch.

deleted_user 05/21/2010

When life gets me down I remember I have big hooters and everything ok again.....

deleted_user 05/21/2010

rofl, two...

i need to remember the things i offer too,... um um um um have to get back to you.

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