Seems to flare up every 4 months or so.

AZ, Don't mean to be rude but please we are adults here.

You guys are so right! poor people. You can't be an alcoholic here.

You seem to have it all figured out. Thank you, my lord.

I respect the right for you to vent.....What's up with you? What condition is your condition in?

There has as long as I've been a member of DS.... been the so-called bullshit posts. Controversial posts. Arguments. Disagreements and occassional chaos. Am I part of the problem or part of the solution? Is the newcomer to fake sanity until it's a reality?

Come on Gary.....keep doing what you do best. Inspire! Whether here or there....your own spirituality depends on it.

With Respect and Friendship
Ree

Gary,

I know what you mean. I got caught up with one person's drunken rants the other night. When I thought about it though, I realized that, in the rooms is where I really help the newcomer.

I do believe though, that one thing seems consistent with both here and the rooms of AA. People either get better or get gone. It just takes a little longer here for that to happen.

Ree, Your right a bit off balance a lot on my plate but no excuse. After sleeping on it I've decided not to come here as often a lot of negative energy. The question keeps coming to my mind am I changing or is the site, probably a little of both.

D- No truer words thanks for the wisdom.

It's a wave and happens off and on and I agree I think it's a little absurd right now. The sad part about it is the desperation is so noticeable and the will to not want to stop and make change is just as noticeable.

i do believe that a lot of those main board postings could be taken to the Lets Take It Outside subgroup -

A little variety and a little OT on the main board, IMO, is ok now and then as helps remind the alkie that they are human and life does exist without alcohol -

it has gotten a little extreme and we all know better than to feed the need but many of do it anyway, me included - i have bitten my tongue but not sure how much longer i can hold back.

I've always been taught and promote that no question is a stupid question, i think I am gonna have to eat my words on that.

Peace!

Yep, things just arnt the same around here.

It pains me to see people lashing out in anger, but it really annoys me when those with "good sobriety" judge and condescend. It happens too often here... bully the sick kid. Have we not all been assholes at some point in our lives. Empathy? Compassion?

"Serenity to accept the things I cannot change."

All of these posts about "those" posts are people trying to control.

If you want to INFLUENCE, send a pm. We are all people at varying degrees of sick and well.

I am guilty too, especially in the last couple mos. I have played on both sides of the fence, but trying to stay honest in my present moment. I am beginning to find my center again. Acceptance and letting go are key for me. The "colorful" posts don't bother me when I am centered.

Imo, the best solution is to NOT stick a hot iron in another person's open wounds. Hot iron = condescension = provocation. Don't fuel the fire.

Give the best positive support you can or leave it be.

I do believe you are spot on How To

good post....

It's just full moon.

That's it!

The FULL Moon!....i do love it

Hate leaning to the right though ---ROFL....throws me off balance..lol....I make it though

Peace and smiles

It does hurt to watch, but it is reality. What positive contribution can I make? Sometimes distance is necessary. Sometimes letting go or letting be is best. But once in awhile I think it's good to remind the ones suffering that I am still here, still listening, and that I still care.

For me, the most important thing to know when I am in a bad place... That those who matter have not given up on me. That I CAN try again and that my presence is welcome both when I am sick and when I am well.

It is SO flippin HARD to BE sick especially in the presence of people who are well and even MORE so in the presence of people who think I don't belong.

If we scold them enough, maybe they will stop talking. Then what?

Not everybody is depressed about being sober. A little bullshit posts never hurt anyone... I find them refreshing.