it's supposed to be
www.athealth.com/Practioner/ceduc/alc_tob.html

ok apparently ds can't handle a whole link today for some unknown reason the rest of it is /alc_tob.html

But this bullshit pretty much screws up the whole post

if interested you can google "cross tolerance tobacco and alcohol"

Mr. crusader treadster man.......

I have a new avi for you honey. :)

How 'bout this?

http://strikeachord.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/funny-no-smoking-sign.jpg

DT, I agree this site is messing up way to much. Took me 10min. just to log in. Every time I hit a post I want to read the screen starts blinking then goes to my profile.. Life is life
PEACE,MARK

I like it HC. But can we add "on a tobacco executive's forehead"?

You gotta be kiddin me. You're a broken record, huh?

it's information drafter. It's this thing called scientific research. You may have heard of it? Well maybe not?
Anyway the point is mute without the link, but it's a very good article. HOW much you can drink may be effected by how much you smoke and VICE VERSA! That doesn't sound like an outside issue to me. In other words tobacco is part of our drug taking ritual with alcohol, just like it's part of the drug taking ritual for heroin. They trigger each other!
People, places and things!

Not related for me - I have been sober and obsession free in relation to alcohol for 8 years and smoke just as i ever did. I am addicted to nicotine. I see many, many people smoking outside AA meetings who have been sober for long periods of time, doesn't seem to cause them to start drinking again

I did sometimes smoke more when I was drunk but that wasn't to do with alcoholism it is to do with the affects of being drunk. I feel sorry for the people who spent time and money bothering to research to find that out - if you go up to anyone who drinks and smokes they will tell you they know it already.

hahaha

OT for sobriety.. But not fir this subject .. .. Can I suggest the film the Insider ..tobacco marketing in US

Because I'm a good sport,

http://www.athealth.com/Practitioner/ceduc/alc_tob.html

aw! Drafter gets a star!! :)

Now lets all go outside and grab a smoke while we read it.... heehee..

Alcohol and smoking. Yep, that was me. No booze...no smoking, I haven't picked up a cigarette since I quit drinking. Never even crossed my mind.

tobacco is a taxable commodity........... natural............alcohol is a natural reaction of nature..............


cocoa leaves........piotie...... "shrooms"



who denigrated them? stripping them from them
the spiritual intended purpose and extending ti t to ones to a selfish high? there is a difference.


i see it everyday it the "political" justification

'singleness of purpose' relates to AA. This is not an AA group.

Donttread, I found when I smoked I guzzled twice as fast. It was a ritualistic habit for sure. I did find giving up smoking a hell of a lot easier than giving up drinking though. Happened for me a year into sobriety. You know those awful ads on TV where they carve up body parts and show the effects (yuk). Well, it just gave me a reminder it was smoko break out the backyard.

But my daughter cottoned onto it, and after an Ad came on, she said to me "Mum, I don't want you to die". Never smoked again DT. And I'm not going to rationalise why. The difference between smoking and not smoking was pretty amazing in the weeks following. The breathing, taste, smell, fitness. Just felt even more alive.