Alcoholism Support Group
Alcoholism is the continued consumption of alcoholic beverages, even when it is negatively affecting your health, work, relationships and life. If you think alcohol is causing you to lose control, it's time to seek help. Our group is a safe place to vent, check in, get back up if you fall, and reach sobriety.
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I have been struggling these past few weeks with on and off drinking as Im trying to quit.made it 4 days without and then started up again 3 days ago. I know that I am an alcoholic and believe that while you either are or arent, there is definitely some progression that happens. This is just based on other people I know and reading stories and looking at forum postings of other alcoholics. The new alcoholic who isnt sure whether or not he/she has a problem is different than the one who has hit rock bottom and will literally give up anything and everything for the bottle.
I watched a movie last night A Walk Among the Tombstones with Liam Neeson (good movie, as his usually are) and in it he is an alcoholic cop who retires early to work privately and also quit drinking after he did something terrible when he was drunk. ANYWAY, him being an alcoholic and the 12 steps werent necessarily an integral part of the movie, but afterward I got to thinking about why he quit drinking. I started to think that I need to really take my drinking problem seriously because I dont want to wait for something terrible to happen before its my day to quit. I dont want to accidentally hurt someone or ruin something. I dont want to hit rock bottom. I dont want to give up relationships and money and my career and reputation before I realize that I have a problem that needs to be dealt with.
I wish we could all learn from others mistakes. I can hear 100 stories of the terrible things an advanced alcoholic does, how it affects their health, destroys their life, all of their regrets, and all of their losses. Yet I still go home and pick up the bottle. Its terrible and disrespectful, yet I do it again and again.
Today is Day 1. Pray for me that this Day 1 is different .
I watched a movie last night A Walk Among the Tombstones with Liam Neeson (good movie, as his usually are) and in it he is an alcoholic cop who retires early to work privately and also quit drinking after he did something terrible when he was drunk. ANYWAY, him being an alcoholic and the 12 steps werent necessarily an integral part of the movie, but afterward I got to thinking about why he quit drinking. I started to think that I need to really take my drinking problem seriously because I dont want to wait for something terrible to happen before its my day to quit. I dont want to accidentally hurt someone or ruin something. I dont want to hit rock bottom. I dont want to give up relationships and money and my career and reputation before I realize that I have a problem that needs to be dealt with.
I wish we could all learn from others mistakes. I can hear 100 stories of the terrible things an advanced alcoholic does, how it affects their health, destroys their life, all of their regrets, and all of their losses. Yet I still go home and pick up the bottle. Its terrible and disrespectful, yet I do it again and again.
Today is Day 1. Pray for me that this Day 1 is different .
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Up until today I have never hit the sort of rock bottom that some people experience in the sense that a lot of bad things that have happened to other alcoholics have not happened to me yet. However, once I went to AA and learned a little about alcoholism I realized that where drinking is concerned there is practically no difference between me and the person sleeping rough on the park bench with a bottle wrapped in a paper bag. It is just that the guy in the park either did not want to get help or did not get it in time whereas I was somehow guided to a room where there were people who had recovered from the same problem.
Dont get too carried away by the fact that you have not progressed as far as other people because if you keep drinking there will be a spare spot on that park bench for you too. I had not hit rock bottom but I KNEW without a shadow of a doubt that the game was up. It took a while longer to admit that I am an alcoholic and longer still to ACCEPT the reality of where I was. It looks like you are now at the admitting stage but have not yet accepted that you cannot drink safely. Accepting is not just about words but is something that requires action. I cannot tell you what to do but what I had to do (once I got over the poor me) was to becoming willing. I became willing to humble myself and to ask someone for help as I could not do it on my own.
Other peoples drinking stories were of little use to me and even the horrors of my own drinking became buried in some deep recess of the mind, with the thought that maybe it wasnt really that bad. I learned that where alcohol is concerned I suffered from a form of insane thinking that left me defenceless against picking up the first drink. My thinking is different today and I can have sound judgement regarding alcohol. I could have continued with the endless struggle against the urge to drink, thinking that it will be different this time but it was suggested that I could try a different approach. Up until today, that suggestion has worked and if I stay on that course, those yets need never happen. Maybe you need to try something different too.
I could go on and on after being sober for such a long time and knowing the ins and outs of so many others Ive been close over the years. But I think in so may ways the similarities far outweigh the differences i may have wanted to use in early sobriety to justify my lack of urgency on the question of am I or can I get up and continue one more time!! Or would it be better to just make my bottom where I was at at this time and leave it at that! Not having to do any redos as a sober person has kept the momentum in the forefront of my sober life without any questions about how I drank or presented myself to myself with the drink question, As my Buddy spiritual Dan whos been missing in action now for so many years used to say ," Only you will know for yourself": Now get BusY))
Among today's incoming A.A. members, many have never reached the advanced stages of alcoholism, though given time all might have.
Most of these fortunate ones have had little or no acquaintance with delirium, with hospitals, asylums, and jails. Some were drinking heavily, and there had been occasional episodes. But with many, drinking had been little more than a sometimes uncontrollable nuisance. Seldom had any of these lost either health, business, family, or friends.
Why do men and women like these join A.A.?
The seventeen who now tell their experiences answer that question. They saw that they had become actual or potential alcoholics, even though no serious harm had yet been done.
They realized that repeated lack of drinking control, when they really wanted control, was the fatal symptom that spelled problem drinking. This, plus mounting emotional disturbances, convinced them that compulsive alcoholism already had then; that complete ruin would be only a question of time.
Seeing this danger, they came to A.A. They realized that in the end alcoholism could be as mortal as cancer; certainly no sane man would wait for a malignant growth to become fatal before seeking help.
Therefore, these seventeen A.A.'s, and hundreds of thousands like them, have been saved years of infinite suffering. They sum it up something like this: "We didn't wait to hit bottom because, thank God, we could see the bottom. Actually, the bottom came up and hit us. That sold us on Alcoholics Anonymous."
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Today is another day #1 for me - I went 12 days without alcohol and then drank a little on the 13th day but last night (day 14) I basically drank a whole bottle of wine.
I am trying hard to stop because of the stupid and sometimes dangerous things I do when I'm drunk. The negative impact these actions have is damaging my relationship with my wife and I don't want to lose her.
So good luck - we're all in this together.
Rich
My neighbor called me last week. Her husband had hit the bottle heavy and she thought he was dying as he was talking incoherently, his eye were buggin out of his head and he was extremely sick. She asked me to come talk to him. I went there for her and didn't go for him. When asked why, I asked back, Have you ever tried talking sense to a drunk?" Case closed. So he was throwing up periodicly and every time he stopped throwing up, he would reach for his vodka and take another drink! Common sense would tell me that if something I am drinking is making is making me ill, I would stop drinking it! Nope! Not to an alcoholic.
I gave her what little support I could and went home. After giving him a couple of days to get over his hangover I spoke to him about it. Told him how worried his wife was and how sick he really was and he did what I use to do...Minimized and lied. He said he only had a couple of drinks but must have drank on an empty stomach. I said ya ok, it's your life.and death and it's not how I choose to go.
I went through detox, followed by an IOP followed by 3 months of relapse prevention group counciling. Throughout all the treatment, AA meetings were mandatory and I still attend them today, 7 years later!
I am happier now then I have ever been but I wouldn't be that way had I not received all the help. One thing I learned is that there are alot of people willing to help but you can't be afraid to ask.
God Bless!
When I drink...I don't eat, shower or associate with anyone. it is a progressive disease...wherever you are now...will get worse. I promise....So I pray this Day 1 is your last...but if it isn't..don't give up.
Sending prayers for you.
Feeling good today and going to work out a plan so that I can try to make this sustainable. Thanks for all the great posts!
You have to stop for you. It sounds like you are in that place where you are tired of the what drinking has done to you and where you know it will end up taking you.
Congrats on Day 1. Keep going, it is worth it, and you are worth it.
I would feel so bad to my three boys and my husband if I got seriously sick from all the drinking .
I hope you success ! I'm on day one too !
I have to say that drinking one day out of six wouldn't be so terrible as an ongoing thing...but I still don't like to feel like I can't drink like a normal person. I need to address the issue....whatever that may be. I wasn't upset or stressed out yesterday. I just had that same insane idea that I could just have a few, get a little buzz and go to sleep. Turned into having 8 and only getting 5 hours of sleep.
Looks like this problem isn't going to go away on its own. Thank you everyone for your posts. Back on the wagon today!!