Alcoholism Support Group
Alcoholism is the continued consumption of alcoholic beverages, even when it is negatively affecting your health, work, relationships and life. If you think alcohol is causing you to lose control, it's time to seek help. Our group is a safe place to vent, check in, get back up if you fall, and reach sobriety.
Imagine a bar called Dionysus and Bacchus Place, where the gods are most certainly drunken crazy. Dion's or Bach's place as it is affectionately called by the regulars has 20 bar stools and serves the same 20 drunken sots everyday. Dion's or Bach's Place holds a rather interesting musical sacrifice to the wino gods once every year. One bar stool is removed leaving 19 stools. Everyone knows the worst drunkard of the 20 will be left without a bar stool and will have to get sober. The jukebox blares: "Ship of Fools" and the dreaded yearly game of musical chairs begins. The drunkards desperately push and shove. Inevitably, the drunkest one staggers, and falls to the floor sobbing failing to get a stool.
This drunkard must get sober and now knows it. He fumbles for a way to get sober having reached the turning point and graduated to alcoholic. The drunkard lands sober somewhere, and believes that it is this or that way that got them sober and saved their life. Every fiber of their well intentioned being preaches out to others saying doing this or that thing will save your life from demon rum if only you do as they or we did. Arrogance in spades I'd say. Mine or theirs I might add?
Yeppers, about 1 in 20 (5%) of alcoholics per year get sober no matter what they do, because they are ready to stop and they know it. Yes, the one that stops playing musical chairs. Go here. Go there. Eat eggplant everyday. The chances for achieving sobriety are equal based on what things each drunk selects or more accurately stumbles upon, or finds they need according to their lights and circumstances.
...And the 20th bar stool back comes out at Dion's and Bach's Place. Almost instantly there's another drunken sot sittin on this bar stool talking like a damn fool with a bottle of cold brew, as the jukebox blares: "Too Much Time on My Hands"...
Release date 1986: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGTEdV5kDF0
This drunkard must get sober and now knows it. He fumbles for a way to get sober having reached the turning point and graduated to alcoholic. The drunkard lands sober somewhere, and believes that it is this or that way that got them sober and saved their life. Every fiber of their well intentioned being preaches out to others saying doing this or that thing will save your life from demon rum if only you do as they or we did. Arrogance in spades I'd say. Mine or theirs I might add?
Yeppers, about 1 in 20 (5%) of alcoholics per year get sober no matter what they do, because they are ready to stop and they know it. Yes, the one that stops playing musical chairs. Go here. Go there. Eat eggplant everyday. The chances for achieving sobriety are equal based on what things each drunk selects or more accurately stumbles upon, or finds they need according to their lights and circumstances.
...And the 20th bar stool back comes out at Dion's and Bach's Place. Almost instantly there's another drunken sot sittin on this bar stool talking like a damn fool with a bottle of cold brew, as the jukebox blares: "Too Much Time on My Hands"...
Release date 1986: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGTEdV5kDF0
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I invited Bill to have dinner with me last Sunday. He wasn't willing to drive 7 hours to mid Michigan and teased me with his beautiful ribs!!! So, of course I ate alone and had cedar salmon
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check out that smoke ring. It tasted really good. I smothered it with Maulls BBQ sauce which is Local to St. Louis and one of the best I ever had.....
I am one of them. I HAD to quit to live. I did not go to AA until I was sober over a month. I was too busy concentrating on getting sober to make it to AA before then. I know that sounds weird, but that's what it was like for me.
As I have heard many people say -- "You have to be ready to quit." If I had gone to SMART Recovery or AA or WFS when I was ready to quit, then I would give that program the credit. I'd tell everyone that they should follow such and such a program because you can't do it on your own. But I know people can quit on their own and do it all the time.
I lost my chair at the bar so now I am happily dancing instead.
Its a revolving door in most recovery rooms -- AA, NA, SMART, and the , rehab, and the like. What's most troubling is that implies we can keep coming through that door. I'm not sure I can so its important to me to stay sober today. We can't assume we'll get sober again if we pick up.
Anyway, interesting food for thought. I love this article too:
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/jan/27/health-and-wellbeing-alcohol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFqb1I-hiHE
this one was more quiet but persistent :))))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFqb1I-hiHE
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ore6K3ESTLc
Who says the 5% only stays sober for a year? There is NOTHING here that says the people who quit on their own are only sober for a year. Why would that be good enough for anyone, no matter how you quit?
But its typical that you'd turn this into an AA member putting down other approaches. I wasnt, so please don't try to pin that on me. It's not constructive.
I'm for anything that gets people sober.
Are you okay? I am doing what about AA?
I had hit the end of my rope and as an older man in recovery used to say before he died sober it is not over until the party is over for you...if your party is not over you will continue to drink...I agree with that....when the party is over you stop....if you are fortunate you have stopped young enough to change your own future thru ability to change from drunk to a member of society again....giving back is a key to that....