It has been my experience that when I try to prove how good my program is by pointing out what is wrong with your program only prevents me passing either program to someone else. It has been my experience when I start to focus on the negative I am blocking the opportunity to grow. When I share with another the negative then they, I believe, will focus more on the controversy. I see this in action in how many negative posts get compared to responses to positive posts.

This is not meant that I do not agree with debate, for me debate is a tool for me to grow, but I need to have positive debate. If I hear I did this and this is the result I received or have you thought about is more likely to have me listening which is the first step in growing.

For me if one person recovers by someone else's program then they have the right to say their program is successful. Then the still suffering has another tool they can use to recover, and in the end of the today isn't recovery the important thing not how they recovered??

G8