ILikeToBeFrank;

I come from a sponsorship line that works with chronic relapsers, ex-cons and half-way-house residents.

The only thing that helps this group is cold, hard truth. You are the quintessence of this group.

Cancer,,,,'nuff said

LOLOLOL

Jerry Springer show here.

Oh, Bo.....Are you saying that the people on DS are all ex-cons, chronic relapsers and half-way house residents?

Come on........

aquarian cry baby here.. sensitive? my OTHER middle name!

Who of us is not sensitive? We are human. I think that any who claim not to be sensitive are in denial! LOL Just my opinion.

Angel4Hope wrote:

".Are you saying that the people on DS are all ex-cons, chronic relapsers and half-way house residents? "

I am not suggesting that DS members represent more or less of these type of individuals. Just that the strongest possible message will help most everyone.

There are already an plethora of advisors here at DS sending a easier, softer message. My industrial strength message may seem harsh to some but in the long run it will help more than it will harm.

No matter how much that it hurts, If you are drowning I will yank you out of the water by your hair.

I do understand Bo...I love the Big Book and yes, I can if I choose to, quote it, I don't have the whole book memorized, however I know where to look for these answers. It is however, important to be able to integrate knowledge into practical application. I am a book worm myself and find much valuable written information, but at some point I had to find a way to live it. Sometimes the message that makes sense to the newcomer is one that someone has applied. Am I making any sense? Do you understand where I am coming from?

aquarius. Bearer of burden. I am learning to shed those burdens

Parrot here:

One of the major misconceptions in addiction recovery that I had to overcome was the idea that the same tools that enabled me to stop drinking were the same tools that would enable me to stay stopped. Stopping drinking is one thing, but staying stopped is a whole new ball game. Getting stopped requires applying knowledge. Staying stopped requires shedding misconceptions.

The psychological tricks and tips that helped me obtain abstinence are not at all the same principles that keep me in recovery today. The easy to grasp slogans and frightening war-stories that were so critical in my first few weeks of abstinence were excellent tools to get me to want to stop drinking, but were never strong enough to keep me in recovery for the long run.

Polly?

Polly?

Polly want a cracker?

Uh....I intended to add intelligent to my original post.

LOL...oh my....

Leo...full on roaring, don't tell me what to do, King of beasts
Don't think that always serves me well if you know what I mean.

Oh yeah, Mom was a gemini. Also an addict. Died 11 years ago next week in a drunken wreck.

I am so sorry about the loss of your mother, Eliz, and the manner of her passing.
Could very well have been me a couple of times.