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Just something I found maybe worth a read. I now for me early in recovery I had to avoid all alcohol because by digesting it in any form ,food, cakes, chocolates, drinks could have set of that physical craving that lead to my next drunk.and who knows what.
I have been out with other recovering alcoholics to clubs to watch a show and have been amazed to see them order a Lemom ,Lime and Bitters fully unaware that Bitters has an alcoholic strength of 45% ABV Alcohol by volume and when I mentioned it have them say I didn't know that.
Anyway just some food for thought...And don't lick your lips after reading the recipes. lol
God Bless...
Lionel
Alcohol Does Not Cook Off
Imagine preparing Boeuf Bourguignon or Grasshopper Pie without wine or liquor. Most chefs would shudder.
Many gourmet cooks think that wine and spirits add essential flavour to dishes and that the alcohol evaporates in the cooking process.
Not true, according to researchers at the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
After testing six recipes, including main dishes and desserts, government nutritionists found that significant percentages of alcohol and wine poured into hot and cold dishes remain even after cooking.
Although the overall alcohol content of the recipes tested by the government remains small, the new finding may serve as a warning for people who want to bar any alcohol from their diet.
"It was assumed until now that everything would be gone after cooking," said Jorg Augustin, professor of food science and biochemistry at the University of Idaho, who prepared and tested the recipes selected by the USDA.
"We hadn't given it much thought before - but we found that the retentions varied quite a bit," he said.
Recipes that required less cooking time retained the highest percentage of alcohol.
A Brandy Alexander pie, made with 3 tablespoons of Brandy and 1/4 cup of Creme de Cacao, retained 85% of the alcohol. Cherries jubilee, made with 1/4 cup of Brandy and flamed for 48 seconds, retained 75%.
Main dishes such as scalloped oysters, prepared with 1/4 cup dry Sherry poured on top of the casserole and baked for 25 minutes, retained 45%. A chicken dish prepared with 1/2 cup of Burgundy stirred in and then simmered for 15 minutes retained 40%. A Pot Roast, prepared with one cup of burgundy and then roasted for 2 1/2 hours, retained only 5%.
Rena Cutrufelli, a USDA nutritionist, said that the agency will review its recipe files to adjust for the finding. The agency has not issued any recommendations based on these preliminary findings for people concerned with alcohol intake, such as recovering alcoholics or pregnant women, she said.
"We were just trying to prove or disprove the assumption that no alcohol exists (after cooking)."
Cutrufelli said, "I don't think for this small a picture you can say what affects people."
A spokeswoman for the Washington-based American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists said the group has not responded to the study. "We don't really know how much alcohol is enough to cause problems," said Kate Ruddon. "But we do know it can cause fetal alcohol syndrome and other problems, we just recommend that women avoid it."
The National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence also recommends that recovering alcoholics avoid foods cooked with wine or liquor. The taste alone could spark a desire to drink again.
"It depends on the individual," said Jeffery Hon, a spokesman for the New York-based council. "It may be more risky for some individuals, and it also depends on how much is used in the dish."
Chris Spolar
I have been out with other recovering alcoholics to clubs to watch a show and have been amazed to see them order a Lemom ,Lime and Bitters fully unaware that Bitters has an alcoholic strength of 45% ABV Alcohol by volume and when I mentioned it have them say I didn't know that.
Anyway just some food for thought...And don't lick your lips after reading the recipes. lol
God Bless...
Lionel
Alcohol Does Not Cook Off
Imagine preparing Boeuf Bourguignon or Grasshopper Pie without wine or liquor. Most chefs would shudder.
Many gourmet cooks think that wine and spirits add essential flavour to dishes and that the alcohol evaporates in the cooking process.
Not true, according to researchers at the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
After testing six recipes, including main dishes and desserts, government nutritionists found that significant percentages of alcohol and wine poured into hot and cold dishes remain even after cooking.
Although the overall alcohol content of the recipes tested by the government remains small, the new finding may serve as a warning for people who want to bar any alcohol from their diet.
"It was assumed until now that everything would be gone after cooking," said Jorg Augustin, professor of food science and biochemistry at the University of Idaho, who prepared and tested the recipes selected by the USDA.
"We hadn't given it much thought before - but we found that the retentions varied quite a bit," he said.
Recipes that required less cooking time retained the highest percentage of alcohol.
A Brandy Alexander pie, made with 3 tablespoons of Brandy and 1/4 cup of Creme de Cacao, retained 85% of the alcohol. Cherries jubilee, made with 1/4 cup of Brandy and flamed for 48 seconds, retained 75%.
Main dishes such as scalloped oysters, prepared with 1/4 cup dry Sherry poured on top of the casserole and baked for 25 minutes, retained 45%. A chicken dish prepared with 1/2 cup of Burgundy stirred in and then simmered for 15 minutes retained 40%. A Pot Roast, prepared with one cup of burgundy and then roasted for 2 1/2 hours, retained only 5%.
Rena Cutrufelli, a USDA nutritionist, said that the agency will review its recipe files to adjust for the finding. The agency has not issued any recommendations based on these preliminary findings for people concerned with alcohol intake, such as recovering alcoholics or pregnant women, she said.
"We were just trying to prove or disprove the assumption that no alcohol exists (after cooking)."
Cutrufelli said, "I don't think for this small a picture you can say what affects people."
A spokeswoman for the Washington-based American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists said the group has not responded to the study. "We don't really know how much alcohol is enough to cause problems," said Kate Ruddon. "But we do know it can cause fetal alcohol syndrome and other problems, we just recommend that women avoid it."
The National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence also recommends that recovering alcoholics avoid foods cooked with wine or liquor. The taste alone could spark a desire to drink again.
"It depends on the individual," said Jeffery Hon, a spokesman for the New York-based council. "It may be more risky for some individuals, and it also depends on how much is used in the dish."
Chris Spolar
I remember those days and thank God there part of my past. Hungover starting to feel better about to take a drink from my flagon of wine (half Gallon bottle ) Getting close to my mouth I would dry heave but had nothing in my stomach to vomit up only a tiny bit of bile. And them I would finely get some wine down after dry heaving into the bottle and I would be away again. and again and again.Do you think we may have have an allergic reaction to alcohol.lol.
Total insanity.
It's no wonder I have a smile on my face these days.
God Bless...
LIonel
That's different
God Bless...
Lionel
I knew a man in meetings where I used to live who ate Trifle (an English/Australian dessert that has layers of confections and sometimes includes port or brandy etc). He had some and busted as a result and did';t get back to AA for another 6 years. He gets a laugh with that story but it's really tragic and it could have been fatal.
My sister has the same name as you only spelt Wendee. She took of last week with her partner to travel around Australia. I have also heard a few different stories concerning food items which contain alcohol .One lady eating chocolates then being breathalysed on her way home from a friends the reading showed positive so she was taken to the local police station for further testing
But was released. A lot of unwanted attention just from eating chocolates which contained alcohol.
Also cunning baffling and powerful .When I was young hospital brandy was used in babies bottles to help put them to sleep also if you had a toothache a little was pored onto a cotton wool and placed on the tooth.Well I was in a meeting one day and a lady who was around my age who was new in recovery told how she had this toothache and without to much thought.(her words) gargled with brandy which led to another drunk which lasted 7 months before she got back to meetings
So I think it pays to a least be informed.
God Bless...
Lionel
Things like trifle, are not cooked so will contain alcohol, and yes mouthwash does and other day to day items too.
I just avoid anything that says alcohol, if I was alergic to peanuts I would not eat anything that has been near peanuts, so why should I eat or taste anything that says alcohol, better safe than sorry.
Stay safe all
Trickey