obviously this person hasnt had enough yet, generaly the get up and go dwindles away after the first burst, then what. We all seek some kind of alternative to replace our addiction,truth is we are never cured.

My Nana's 93 years old and will tell you that if she took a sip of champagne, she'd have a gallon of vodka within the hour.

I believe her....she learned at 70 that she wasn't "cured" and relapsed for a couple of years.

Don't think she considers herself "cured" today at all! That's a loooooot of years of drinkin and experience right there. If my Nana can't take a drink at 93, I damn sure aint willin to risk it at 37.

It's America's fault. There will never be a cure because our economy depends on the ca-ching $$$$$$$ on alcohol. Why do you think cigarettes are still legal?

No, I don't believe that 100%, but hey...

It certainly is a factor though...

Yeah, trying to save that SS $ too.... OK I'll stop!

What did they mean by "cure" gjm? Did they mean they could drink normal? This statement sounds like it is taken out of context. If, day in and day out a person did things they liked and stayed active, then did not drink I would say they are doing a good going. The basis of a good life is contributing and being active imo-keeping interested in living. They are on the right track, this is not so bad of a statement, unless it was meant to say they could start to drink like a regular person once they started living this way.

I hear ya G, no cure and nobody has a patent on serene recovery. I was reading a closed thread about people staying sober through fear. I stayed sober for 5 years driven solely by fear. But the difference is~~~ I was miserable.
AA, the steps, the whole nine teaches me nothing about not-drinking. These things teach me why I am the problem and what the hell is a matter with me. I had tons of bullshit behavioral problems before chemicals.
Back to fear!! I can name around 10 people in prison ministry who are 100% changed people. They are serene, they are the real deal.
Now I also know 20-30 people that are presently sober, that stay sober driven by fear, scared to go back to prison, not county jail,,,, prison.
Today, I am a greatful recovering alkie.

Oh it was definitely taken out of context!! In a feeble attempt to demean someone!! I surely know I can never drink again. By cure I mean that I will no drink again...without spending every waking minute thinking and planning to not drink!! Good try!

Now you sound like you are feeling a wee bit inadequate Scooter. No defense mech needed. We alkies think EVERYTHING is about US. NOT!

DT...trust me...it is about me!!

Cure is a very strong word, there is no cure. if your distracted your just an alcoholic who got distracted, if they are a real alcoholic they are probably having alot of problems also they don't tell people. You have issues to work on and you have to work on them.

But when there is a CURE it will be on every TV in the world so you will see it come on when it does happen.

Every addict/alcoholic that has been to a few hundred meetings will tell you the two biggest cuss words in recovery are "cure" and "control." It is drummed into our thick skulls that this is a chronic desiese that is simply in check (not cured) and that God is the only one who has control.

But, we are programmed to see the bleak meaning of these unmentionables, even if context says differently. IOW, I sometimes over-react to the simple mention of these two words. I have to understand that not all people are hard-wired to abhor these words and that they are valid English words that are in use in general lexicon.

So, context is everything. I try to understand the person's intent and when confused, I will ask, "What do you mean by that?" Pretty simple question that can avoid a lot of confusion.

wpm- VERY well said.

As for me. I don't believe the disease debate though I respect others opinions on it.

If you believe you have a disease I hope they find a cure. As for me, not an issue.

In most cases alcoholism is a effect of underlying mental problems like depression and anxiety. When you have these nothing brings pleasure in most cases.