Women who Love too Much Community Group
WHEN BEING IN LOVE, MEANS BEING IN PAIN... This group is to help women through the journey of realizing they can love themselves. To help realize that they are capable of having a happy, healthy, whole relationship and break the cycle of abuse and heartache from loving emotionally unavailable men.
The Impossible yet Appealing Dream
izzych
Hello,
I am rereading a New Earth for the hundredth time. Every time I read it I understand it more. I must admit that I have yet to become enlighten to the point that I want to be. I imagine that I will be like a Buddha-Christ. In the world but not of it. I can say that the teaching have afforded me some space between the thought and my reaction to the thought. But I am far from floating above the concerns of human existence.
Last night I was on Daily-Strength looking around and I came across a lady's journal that was open to the public. The journal spanned across maybe about 5-6 years. She was in an abusive relationship with two small children and during the time she was journaling here she miscarried once and had a still birth of twins. The husband would beat her on a daily basis and she would come to the site and talk about how painful it was but yet how she could not leave. I could not stop reading it. I read post after post waiting for her to leave, waiting for it to be over. Eventually after the beating that caused her to lose the twins he was arrested. Shortly after that she lost her job, was homeless for a while and then eventually started living with her grandmother. The last entry was sometime last year and she was rebuilding and hoping that her and her husband would get back together. Yes, I said she wanted to try again- what saved her is that he said no.
She said she felt stupid for saying it or even thinking it but she was willing to tell the truth. The people that responded were kind- saying things like it is okay but you need to move on. I pride myself on being non-judgmental but really it is just a performance most times. I was judging her- I wanted her to run like hell because she represented my greatest fear. She represented the part of me that I wish to hide- the part that will chase the impossible yet appealing dream at all cost. It feels good and uppity to say "well, I have NEVER been in an abusive relationship. I would NEVER let a man hit me.." But truth be told the men I dated were so off balanced I was only one bad argument away from being slapped or slapping them myself. I can remember one night I fantasized about stabling my boyfriend while he slept.
But I think that there is a lesson her far greater than I at first imagines. See the book I mentioned in the beginning of the post talks about the insatiable wanting of the ego. Ego being a conceptualized sense of self. I am what I think, have, do, roles I play, and possessions that I own. I have equated Being with things, people, and ideas outside of myself. The book proposes that the content may be different depending on gender, race, social economic status, and culture but the structure is the same. The structure is there is something, someone, or some idea outside of myself that will complete me. Her content was different than mine- her man was abusive while my were addicts but the structure- the underlying cause was the same. I need something outside of myself to be okay and I will pursue it at all cost. It was easy for me to look at her content and think I am not that bad but really we are struggling from the same disease. Hell, to be honest all humans are struggling from this disease because the list for enlighten human beings is really small. The content for WWLTM is men or relationship in general but it is no worse or better than the workaholic, the shopaholic, the food addict, the drug addict, the religious nut, the serial killer----I mean the list is endless for the ways in which human beings are seeking something outside of themselves to feel better to the point where it becomes addictive and obsessive.
But the dream is impossible. It will never work and once we can fully grasp and believe that we can start doing the real work of our lives. The search for something outside of ourselves that will heal is so appealing but it is doomed to fail each and every time. It is tempting to think that the woman who believes her abusive husband can save her if he only changes is no more absurd than me thinking a man addicted to prescription pills could save me. The absurdity lies not in the content but rather in the structure of the belief- I need something or someone else to feel better, safe, whole, validated, wanted, or worthy. So where do we look if not in others or in stuff. I think that once we release the dream what we are left with is the truth of who we are. It does not need to be found or discovered or created. It is already there being covered up by an impossible yet appealing dream.
I am rereading a New Earth for the hundredth time. Every time I read it I understand it more. I must admit that I have yet to become enlighten to the point that I want to be. I imagine that I will be like a Buddha-Christ. In the world but not of it. I can say that the teaching have afforded me some space between the thought and my reaction to the thought. But I am far from floating above the concerns of human existence.
Last night I was on Daily-Strength looking around and I came across a lady's journal that was open to the public. The journal spanned across maybe about 5-6 years. She was in an abusive relationship with two small children and during the time she was journaling here she miscarried once and had a still birth of twins. The husband would beat her on a daily basis and she would come to the site and talk about how painful it was but yet how she could not leave. I could not stop reading it. I read post after post waiting for her to leave, waiting for it to be over. Eventually after the beating that caused her to lose the twins he was arrested. Shortly after that she lost her job, was homeless for a while and then eventually started living with her grandmother. The last entry was sometime last year and she was rebuilding and hoping that her and her husband would get back together. Yes, I said she wanted to try again- what saved her is that he said no.
She said she felt stupid for saying it or even thinking it but she was willing to tell the truth. The people that responded were kind- saying things like it is okay but you need to move on. I pride myself on being non-judgmental but really it is just a performance most times. I was judging her- I wanted her to run like hell because she represented my greatest fear. She represented the part of me that I wish to hide- the part that will chase the impossible yet appealing dream at all cost. It feels good and uppity to say "well, I have NEVER been in an abusive relationship. I would NEVER let a man hit me.." But truth be told the men I dated were so off balanced I was only one bad argument away from being slapped or slapping them myself. I can remember one night I fantasized about stabling my boyfriend while he slept.
But I think that there is a lesson her far greater than I at first imagines. See the book I mentioned in the beginning of the post talks about the insatiable wanting of the ego. Ego being a conceptualized sense of self. I am what I think, have, do, roles I play, and possessions that I own. I have equated Being with things, people, and ideas outside of myself. The book proposes that the content may be different depending on gender, race, social economic status, and culture but the structure is the same. The structure is there is something, someone, or some idea outside of myself that will complete me. Her content was different than mine- her man was abusive while my were addicts but the structure- the underlying cause was the same. I need something outside of myself to be okay and I will pursue it at all cost. It was easy for me to look at her content and think I am not that bad but really we are struggling from the same disease. Hell, to be honest all humans are struggling from this disease because the list for enlighten human beings is really small. The content for WWLTM is men or relationship in general but it is no worse or better than the workaholic, the shopaholic, the food addict, the drug addict, the religious nut, the serial killer----I mean the list is endless for the ways in which human beings are seeking something outside of themselves to feel better to the point where it becomes addictive and obsessive.
But the dream is impossible. It will never work and once we can fully grasp and believe that we can start doing the real work of our lives. The search for something outside of ourselves that will heal is so appealing but it is doomed to fail each and every time. It is tempting to think that the woman who believes her abusive husband can save her if he only changes is no more absurd than me thinking a man addicted to prescription pills could save me. The absurdity lies not in the content but rather in the structure of the belief- I need something or someone else to feel better, safe, whole, validated, wanted, or worthy. So where do we look if not in others or in stuff. I think that once we release the dream what we are left with is the truth of who we are. It does not need to be found or discovered or created. It is already there being covered up by an impossible yet appealing dream.
I feel like I can see so much more, like I am going through an awakening. I can see my own faults and in those faults I can accept them and move on to a better, healthier future for me and my 2 young sons, without an emotionally abusive man in our lives.
The thing that still scares me is the big question I guess i've been hiding from. "Who am i?" I have been like a chameleon, borrowing my beliefs, personality traits, values etc, from other people, all my life. How do i know what is me and what is what i've created. Is it ok to keep some of what i've created to hide behind? How do i find me? I guess it will come as i carry on this journey, but any insight you have would be gratefully received :) Thanks
Doreann, the realization that we are enough will be a freeing experience for all of us. But I am starting to think that WWLTM problems really are a problem that is common to all human beings even men. The dream. the desire, the obsession of trying to prove our worth can be seen every where in every one. I have not dated a man who has not had a childhood riddled with some sort of pain. But my parents had a rough child hood as well. Maybe the lie started generations ago. Who is to blame?
You say "I think that once we release the dream what we are left with is the truth of who we are. It does not need to be found or discovered or created. It is already there being covered up by an impossible yet appealing dream."
My problem is that when I allow myself to be uncovered I get uncomfortable. I do not know this feeling well enough to be comfortable with it for very long. And the minute my thoughts change to old ones I feel that warm comfort come back and I am lost once again. How do we stay with the discomfort?
Lately I am feeling disconnected to everything. Is it possible to feel connected to our OWN self for more than brief moments? I think this takes a great deal of practice and ongoing studying. I do it for a while then like most things want to take a break. But this taking a break seems to set me back to square one!
Yes, that was a sad and painful story to read but I believe that understanding comes when we are ready for it. Reading her story made me realize that our pain make look different on the surface but beneath it all the reasons are the same. While I read her story I wanted to believe that I was better than her, not as sick as she was but that is not true. Because I have the same thoughts, beliefs, and pain that she has I just express and experience mine differently.
I think the awareness of feeling discomfort is a big part of the process. I came to point where I felt intuitively that this process need not be so painful all the time. The ego is a conceptualized sense of self- meaning I am my thoughts, feelings, and belongings. When we drop the attachment with the things that we are using to define ourselves what we experience is peace. If you can tap into the thoughts and feelings surrounding your discomfort you may become aware that you are still identifying who you are with what you think and feel. I am not an expert by any means I am like all of you in that I have days where I understand and can apply what I have learned-then there are days when I fall right back into old habits of identifying with the story of who I am. I can say that the moments when I can drop a thought or a feeling and realize that it really is just a thought and just a feeling brings with a sense of space. I don't feel good or bad- I just am. I know that what I am saying may seem vague.
Yesterday I needed to check the mail and immediately my mind started to created all kinds of drama. What if this came or what if this has not come yet. So, I became aware of the thoughts and then I realized I don't know what is in the mail and that was the truth of the now. I wont say that the experience lifted me high above the world and I was Buddha like but I can say that it came with a sense of I don't know and that feels better that attaching myself to fearful thoughts. It was a small victory but it was a peaceful one.
I really believe that the healing is not painful- the stories we tell ourselves, the way in which we tell the story, the beliefs, the mis-teaching we have received and all the feelings that accompany it are where the pain resides. But the healing does not contain pain what it really contains is a shift in consciousness that allows us to see our thoughts, feelings, and experiences as just that- thoughts, feelings, and experiences.
I know it feels personal but really it isn't. We are all in this from one varying degree or another. If you think about it how many people do you know who are not struggling with something- some disease or discomfort. Who is not thinking that if they had this or got that they would be better. Who among us does not have a painful past story or a hopeful dream for the future. The book A New Earth suggests that what we are experiencing really is a disease of the human mind not of our individual minds. I take comfort in that because it means that I am not singled out or special in my insanity but what it also means is that there is a solution for all of us... The realization that there is an aspect of my Being that is not dependent on things, people, places, ideas, thoughts, feelings, or experiences- gives me a purpose far greater than anything I have imagined before. If Being means that I have to stake my claim in the Now then if prevents me from harping on my past or getting lost in the future. All it requires is that in this moment I notice whether I am present in this moment or if I am lost in the past or looking toward the future.
As a child my mind developed various maladaptive behaviours to cope with situations over which I had no control. So, for example, I became self-effacing when I changed schools at age 12: it was insurance against the bullying I’d experienced in the previous school (“if they can’t see me, they can’t bully me”). Becoming self-effacing wasn’t maladaptive per se: it was simply the only thing I knew how to do. Still, the basic impulse behind it was one of survival. So in that sense, I see it (and myself) as a healthy reaction to a dysfunctional situation. It’s unfortunate that this behaviour, which for me was the solution to a very real problem, had very damaging repercussions further down the road. If I’d had better information, or if I’d had a smart and compassionate adult or older sibling or friend to talk to, then I might have been able to develop healthier coping mechanisms. As it was, I didn’t and so this coping mechanism became ingrained as habit and to this day I struggle with social situations, feeling at a loss because I haven’t yet learned who “me” is.
My point is that even behaviours that ultimately prove unhealthy are rooted in the need to survive and the fact that we’ll do almost anything to survive does not make us diseased so much as human. Of course there is a spectrum here. It seems to me that when maladaptive behaviours becomes systematically self-destructive, then they’re more disease-like, because disease connotes destruction. But I don’t think of myself ‘diseased’ for having been drawn into codependent situations in my life to date. I don’t see this as my destiny or my identity or a permanent condition. To me it’s cause-and-effect and seeing it like that, a human situation, helps me find the strength to look into it, dismantle it and hopefully change it.
I used the word "disease" because that was the word he used in the book- A New Earth. I can understand your resistance to the word as well because when the Book(WWLTM) said that we are addicts and would need a 12-step program to recover- I felt turned off.