Women who Love too Much Community Group
WHEN BEING IN LOVE, MEANS BEING IN PAIN... This group is to help women through the journey of realizing they can love themselves. To help realize that they are capable of having a happy, healthy, whole relationship and break the cycle of abuse and heartache from loving emotionally unavailable men.
I understand where you are coming from, my ex was such a liar I'm not sure if I can ever trust a man again. So for now I am still not dating. Don't beat yourself up if you aren't ready, you must go at your own pace and no one elses!
"Dateing is an opportunity to do some careful investigating that will help you decide whether or not a particular man has long term potential, short term potential or no potential at all. A smart woman knows that few women use dateing to their advantage. Either they are so disintersted that they never give the guy a chance, or they are so attracted that their sense of judgement flies out the window.
A smart woman nows that dateing requires caution, judgement, and common sense: she knows she shouldnt be too quick to reject a man just because there is no immediate chemistry. Sometimes she needs to know him better, and the chemistry can change. A smart woman also knows that she should never be so blinded by lust that she fails to pau attention to the following:
-his attitude towards women in general
-his attitude towards money
-his attitude towards his family
-his attitude towards his carreer
-his attitude towards his car
-his attitude towards your career
-his ability to share
-his ability to play fair
-his ability to laugh
-his ability not to take himself too seriously
-his ability to take himself seriously enough
-his additions (drink, drugs, smoking etc)
-his potential aversions(your pets, religion, friends etc)
-his politics
-his values
-his neurosses
- his history with women
Dateing is something you do to find out whether you want to get involved with a man... so take your time.
I am sure you are worth alot so take you time do not settle , be sure , and save yourself alot of heart ache, Ask how much do you like him, not how mch does he like you.
dont know if this helps.... vicki
I relate to EVERYTHING you said and could have wrote your post myself. I have been out of my latest abusive relationship (3 abusive relationships total) for 4 months. I went back several times of course. Can't believe I ever put up with it, let alone gave him more opportunities to abuse me further. I have MAJOR fear of abandonment issues and serious boundaries issues (I really have no boundaries to speak of).
All 3 of my exes were abusive and completely emotionally unavailable, none were capable of giving or receiving love and have never loved anyone in their lives. They were all narcissists and one was an actual psychopath. They were all sex addicts as well, the last 2 really serious (one being a registered sex offender -didn't find out till after I left him). Had to get a restraining against the psychopath. He is very dangerous and obsessively stalked me w/ a gun for about a year and a half. He was arrested.
I have been working really hard on me now. Learning about codependency, love addiction, sex addiction, fear of intimacy, fear of abandonment, etc. My issues as well as my ex's to figure all this out. I finally got a handle on what happened and why. Just working on fixing me now so that it doesn't happen again. I am able to spot the red flags now and have already walked away from 2 emotionally unavailable men before getting involved.
I still haven't been attracted to any healthy men yet though. I'm not ready to date anyway, I have a long way to go on my recovery, and like you, I'm scared to death of dating and just men in general at this point. I don't know how or if I can ever trust another man again. I have a lot of trauma to still deal with and process. Maybe you really aren't ready to start dating yet, maybe the fear is an indication of that?
I definitely agree with ipearl, stay away from dating sites. There is a heavier concentration of nutjobs, emotionally unavailable, and abusive weirdos on those sites (2 of my exes, including the psychopath, use them). It's bad enough weeding through the general population. Predators see internet dating sites as easy hunting grounds.
Good luck...and PAY ATTENTION TO RED FLAGS... if he's showering you with gifts nonstop, can't seem to be away from you, talks about marriage right away, has been married lots of times, no gaps between relationships, jumps from one to the next, or has been single for several years, talks bad about his exes, feels sorry for himself, doesn't show up on time, stands you up, huge porn collection, goes to strip clubs, etc.
i dont NEED anyone else. ive been through hell to get here, abandoned and left for dust, with a baby on the way, finally, i am the ME i knew deep inside. finally, i feel confident in myself, in spite of my flaws. and last, i love me. i dont want to be anyone else. and i wont comprimise again.
this guy, good job, seemed to have ambition, and swore by me. waited for me even when i pushed him away. always told me positive things he saw in me, what made him care so much. said he knew what he wanted, and that it was me. he was over persistant. he was also way immature, and not so smart. i gave in.
i accepted his immaturity, and the fact that he annoyed the hell out of me. telling myself i needed to date a "nice guy" and that the only reason he annoyed me so much was because he was a "nice guy" so basically i forced a relationship. i settled. and well, i got hurt to a point so deep it has changed me forever, and i am having his baby any day now. but i am ok now. i wasnt for a while. i didnt think i could be. but i am. and in a way, it was good. cause no one, i mean, NO ONE, can EVER hurt me that way again.
its been done once. its hard to explain really. but for the first time maybe in my life, i may not know what i want always, but i DO know what i dont want, and i WILL NEVER settle again.. i know BOUNDRIES.
and most important, i know MYSELF, finally.