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Stay or divorce? Other perspectives please....
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This roller coaster ride is just too much to take. AH has had 2 DUIs and after being without a license for 2 years, now has a breathalyzer attached to ignition of his vehicle. He drinks straight vodka, so if he drinks on Saturday, it's still in his system and his truck won't start the next day. He has taken to drinking small bottles of vodka (easy to smuggle into the house and find a hiding spot). There have been times he has not been able to go into work as scheduled, cause it takes a couple hours for the booze to wear off so the truck will start. This happened twice after it was first installed, and I drove him to work. After that I said "No more - you drink, you deal".
I try hard not to be an "enabler". I don't make excuses for his drinking. My kids know what is going on, as they can clearly tell when he is under the influence. One Xmas we had a special outing planned with friends. He drank that afternoon and I told him he was uninvited. I was not going to drag along a drunk and be embarrassed in front of our friends. The same thing happened one Thanksgiving - he came home very drunk the night before and I was so angry I left him home the next day. Trying to teach him a lesson. One thing I learned from Alanon is that I am powerless against alcohol. That may be true, but I've tried to show him there are consequences to his drinking, but that doesn't keep him from doing it. A true addict.
I have offered to help him in so many ways. Therapy for depression, anti-depressants, AA, you name it and we have done it all, except for rehab. I have said to him several times, "admit that you can't stop on your own, and I will get you help - but you have to want it for yourself". He has never said that he wants help, and I know that that is the first step to recovery. Without him wanting it, I feel there is nothing else I can do for him.
I'm not sure which is best - to stay here and just do my own thing (focus on kids/job/friends) - or to divorce. We have 2 kids, ages 12 and 15. AH is not abusive when drinking, but we are all disgusted by seeing him under the influence, unable to hold a conversation, and so we just avoid him. Eventually he just passes out on the couch.
I am turning 50 soon, and can no longer see myself growing old with this man. Alcohol has changed him in so many ways. I'm torn between staying put, knowing that another 5-10 years could pass and then I'd be "starting over" at 55-60, and beginning divorce proceedings now. I think the older one gets, the harder it is to find that special someone.
I'm hesitant to begin divorce proceedings for a couple reasons... (1) I don't want to uproot the kids - having to possibly move and/or change schools. (2) I'm afraid if we divorce that the kids would have to spend time alone with him, and I would have anxiety while they are with him. The ignition breathalyzer is only required for another 1.5 years, and I know that he will absolutely drink & drive again. I think the 3rd time he'd get mandatory jail time. (3) I have put my heart and soul into the home we built and do not want to sell it. I make a good living, and could afford the mortgage myself, but child support would be needed. I'd hope to be able to stay in the house until my kids finish college. Does anyone have experience with this?
We have been living on this ride for 6 years now. When he's not drinking I see glimpses of the man I fell in love with. I miss the friendship and closeness we had, and sometimes feel overwhelmed by loneliness.
Thanks for listening to me -
I try hard not to be an "enabler". I don't make excuses for his drinking. My kids know what is going on, as they can clearly tell when he is under the influence. One Xmas we had a special outing planned with friends. He drank that afternoon and I told him he was uninvited. I was not going to drag along a drunk and be embarrassed in front of our friends. The same thing happened one Thanksgiving - he came home very drunk the night before and I was so angry I left him home the next day. Trying to teach him a lesson. One thing I learned from Alanon is that I am powerless against alcohol. That may be true, but I've tried to show him there are consequences to his drinking, but that doesn't keep him from doing it. A true addict.
I have offered to help him in so many ways. Therapy for depression, anti-depressants, AA, you name it and we have done it all, except for rehab. I have said to him several times, "admit that you can't stop on your own, and I will get you help - but you have to want it for yourself". He has never said that he wants help, and I know that that is the first step to recovery. Without him wanting it, I feel there is nothing else I can do for him.
I'm not sure which is best - to stay here and just do my own thing (focus on kids/job/friends) - or to divorce. We have 2 kids, ages 12 and 15. AH is not abusive when drinking, but we are all disgusted by seeing him under the influence, unable to hold a conversation, and so we just avoid him. Eventually he just passes out on the couch.
I am turning 50 soon, and can no longer see myself growing old with this man. Alcohol has changed him in so many ways. I'm torn between staying put, knowing that another 5-10 years could pass and then I'd be "starting over" at 55-60, and beginning divorce proceedings now. I think the older one gets, the harder it is to find that special someone.
I'm hesitant to begin divorce proceedings for a couple reasons... (1) I don't want to uproot the kids - having to possibly move and/or change schools. (2) I'm afraid if we divorce that the kids would have to spend time alone with him, and I would have anxiety while they are with him. The ignition breathalyzer is only required for another 1.5 years, and I know that he will absolutely drink & drive again. I think the 3rd time he'd get mandatory jail time. (3) I have put my heart and soul into the home we built and do not want to sell it. I make a good living, and could afford the mortgage myself, but child support would be needed. I'd hope to be able to stay in the house until my kids finish college. Does anyone have experience with this?
We have been living on this ride for 6 years now. When he's not drinking I see glimpses of the man I fell in love with. I miss the friendship and closeness we had, and sometimes feel overwhelmed by loneliness.
Thanks for listening to me -
My hubby chose to go, the alternative of not going wasn't too sweet and he actually embraced it like he knew it had defeated him. This does not mean I will stay with him.. There's a lot that will unfold and time will help me figure things out. In my case I am not sure the emotional scars of the lies and poor choices will ever heal, if the trust and respect can ever be gained back. However because he chose to go and if he follows through with it all... I will support him and ensure we have a good relationship for the kids sake.
Only you can make te choice but I think you know what he needs and I think you know you're nearing your breaking point. Nothing is worse than regrets, you have a choice.. No point in making it when your 60. Some things never change, but we can chose to.
Best of luck ;)
You have obviously done your homework and have a clear picture of your situation. You are so right that his healing can't happen until he wants it to happen.
Reading between the lines, it seems to me that you want to leave and are ready to leave. I would at least take the first step and talk with a divorce attorney. You sound clear and strong, and will survive whatever presents itself once you get off the roller coaster. Seems like it's time (or past time). Best of luck to you.
I have chosen to leave, have 2 young children and it's really hard, but the alternative is worse for everyone.
I feel relief no longer living in a state of limbo with him.
1) don't plan on another relationship any time soon. I found I was still attracted to alcoholics (ugh). So I avoid them like the plague. Got them out of my system but can tell you my trust issues are massive and not a lot of good choices out there. What I really regret is not leaving 5 to 10 years earlier. Most guys are age either like younger girls or they have their own issues. Plus where do you even meet guys that are available without addiction issues.
2) don't plan on child support. Mine did until daughter was 17 and then just paid part to pay lawn guy ( his friend). He stopped that on month she turned 18 even though she was in sr year of high school.
3) I recently moved out of marital home. Three years after split. It had way too many painful memories and best decision I ever made was starting with a new house with new furniture and decor. I didn't want to remember the good times and sway ever again.
I still have a lot of baggage after almost 30 years together. I hope one day to meet a good guy and get into a long term relationship. But meanwhile I am content and glad to be out of the limbo even though my heart was ripped out in the process
I'm 50 and will 51 in a couple weeks. I've been with my AH for 16-1/2 years and 8 to 9 of those years he was sober. This month is the 4th anniversary of his falling off the wagon. I would be gone by now except I have some health issues and need his insurance to deal with them. I'm going in for surgery next month, and as soon as I'm healed from that surgery, either he OR me and the kids are leaving if he hasn't gotten into some sort of program and stopped drinking by theN. He will not talk or listen to me about his addiction unless I have him in a captive location (a car), and so Saturday night, we are going to some friends' of his house for dinner, and I plan on telling him then about my plans to file divorce papers after I'm healed from my surgery because I do not want to live like this anymore. Good way to spoil an evening out. There's times I wish we had two houses on our property. One where he can go when he's drunk and leave us alone so we don't have to be exposed to it. He's disgusting when he drinks, period, and my loathing just seeps out of my pores. And the kids are the same. I can see in my oldest son's eyes (13 yrs old) the hatred directed towards his father when he's drunk. I see it many times when he's not drunk, but so much worse when he is. I see pity and hatred in my 10-yr-old daughter's face. My 6-yr-old son talks about his Dad like he's a joke when he's drunk. Pokes fun of him. Only my 8-yr-old daughter feels sorry for him. But they all want out and do not want to be around it. We love him, but we hate the addiction and who he becomes. And we hate the sober, hateful person he is at times as well. All part of the behavior. Who wants to live like that? I've been struggling with "my plan" for 2 years, and trying to devise all kinds of plans: stay here, refinance, but be unable to maintain the upkeep of the property? - file bankruptcy to get out from under the bills, and then won't be able to buy my own home for another 4 to 5 yrs or more? - move down closer to my parents and sister so I have family support, disrupt my kids' lives/activies by doing that? I don't know what the answer is, but at this point, I'm prepared to leave to get the addiction out of our lives and take one day at a time to get back on track.