implants are ugly, i saw how they look in a documentary, this is utter ugliness even for someone with extreme T like me, im 27 i dont wanna look like a 82 years old with an implant for Parkinson... im not enthusiastic about this, there must be a better way

Valhalla,

I never considered this. I am assuming the device is implanted near the vagus nerve. How exactly does it show? I thought VNS involved going to an outpatient clinic and having the vagus nerve stimulated by an external device of some sort. Now I am reading on here and on the other tinnitus board that it is implanted. DId they implant the rats in the lab w/ a device as well?

I thought the initial studies I read were that you would go through a series of outpatient treatments and then perhaps have refresher treatments every so often, again all externally performed. I agree 100%... implants would not be fun, esp. if they were aesthetically unappealing. Yikes!

@Valhalla...where did you view this documentary? I would be interested to see what it truly looks like.

Valhalla, I'm with sugaboog on this. Where can we all view it? Details please.

i saw a guy with an implant that stimulates the brain for parkinson, in the A History Of Surgery (2011) - British documentary series, from what i read online i understand that the one from micro transponder would be of the same type... i am hoping for some kind of drug cure, but i suspect researchers aren't interested in that kind of cure because it might not be as lucrative as "have to be implanted" gadgets that can't cost less than 20K, just my opinion, i hope it's not the case

Here is a video that talks about our therapy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgO2BoLhL90
Here is another video of our lead researcher talking about our Tinnitus Therapy using VNS.
http://www.youtube.com/user/MicroTransponder#p/u/1/KqRJRg_zc7o

They run a small paemaker device, and wire than runs from the chest over your shoulder, and into the deck area.

Whiel the vagus nerve is stimulated, you where a pair of headphones for about a month, that delivers certain sounds.

The two things working together stimulates the vagus nerve , which in turn fills the void the brain is missing, which is where the tinnitus is coming from

Guys, look back at everything I already sent you, on this procedure.

I sent 4 different things recently about this comapany, within the last week

I was told it's a very simple implant, and you won't even feel it underneath your skin.

While the vagus nerve is stimulated, you put on a a set of headphones for about a month, that delivers certain sounds .

You where the headphones for about two hours a day.

Excuse my grammer, I just woke up

Lets try it again.

You wear a set of headphones

At the end of the wire, that is in your neck area, There is a little transmitter or microphone, that sends a signal to the vagus nerve.

All this is controled by a software program, which is run through your labtop.

After 30 days, you should be able to see your results, from running this program.

The program can be used again, if need be. The batteries can last up to 20 years. It all depends if you use it again, or not..

Once they implant the device in you, the system stays inside of you, so if you need to run the program again, at a later date, you can.

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Vagus Nerve Stimulation

The VNS device is sometimes referred to as a "pacemaker for the brain." It is placed under the skin on the chest wall and a wire runs from it to the vagus nerve in the neck.

The vagus nerve is part of the autonomic nervous system, which controls functions of the body that are not under voluntary control, such as the heart rate. The vagus nerve passes through the neck as it travels between the chest and abdomen and the lower part of the brain.

What is the surgery like?
The surgeon first makes an incision along the outer side of the chest on the left side, and the device is implanted under the skin. Then a second incision is made horizontally in the lower neck, along a crease of skin, and the wire from the stimulator is wound around the vagus nerve in the left side of the neck. The brain itself is not involved in the surgery.

The device (also called an implant) is a flat, round battery, about the size of a silver dollarthat is, about an inch and a half (4 cm) acrossand 10 to 13 millimeters thick, depending on the model used. Newer models may be somewhat smaller.

The procedure usually lasts about 50 to 90 minutes with the patient under general anesthesia. Sometimes a hospital stay of one night is required. Some surgeons have performed the procedure with local anesthesia and the patient has been discharged the same day.

How is VNS used?
The neurologist programs the strength and timing of the impulses according to each patient's individual needs. The settings can be programmed and changed without entering the body, just by using a programming wand connected to a laptop computer.

For all patients, the device is programmed to go on for a certain period (for example, 7 seconds or 30 seconds) and then to go off for another period (for example, 14 seconds or 5 minutes). The device runs continuously, usually with 30 seconds of stimulation alternating with 5 minutes of no stimulation. The patient is usually not aware that it's operating.

Holding a special magnet near the implanted device causes the device to become active outside of the programmed interval. For people with warnings (auras) before their seizures, activating the stimulator with the magnet when the warning occurs may help to stop the seizure. Many patients without auras also experience improved seizure control, however.

Settings (also called stimulation parameters) set by the neurologist typically include a stimulation amplitude of 1.0 to 3.0 mA (milliamperes), a stimulation frequency of 30 Hz (hertz), and a pulse width of 500 microseconds. By adjusting these settings, the doctor not only may be able to control more of the patient's seizures, but often can also relieve side effects. One study, for instance, found that changing the pulse width eliminated pain that some patients were experiencing.

Who really gives a crao what it looks like.. As soon as the trials are done, and its approved in Europe, and is available, I will be there begging for one, no matter what the cost... I'll deal with the consequences of my impulsive actions later on... In the quietness, and with a mind thats at peace.... bob

"Who really gives a crap what it looks like" bebee, I was thinking the very same thing! Have already said I would have BOTH hearing nerves severed if it meant that my tinnitus would be 100% gone. Pretty drastic but hell yes I would do it.

Bob..I like what you said...you will deal with the consequences of my impulsive actions later on....In the quietness, and with a mind thats at peace.....that's what we all want, peace.

You guys, I feel the same way.

If this device actually does, what we are expected to do, I will be Europe so fast, I could care less, about a small surgical operation.

It's so minor, compared to some of these other operations that are out there.

I just want to get rid of this tinnitus.

not so fast...i agree w/ the general sentiment, but are there any long-term implications or potential complications of having a device implanted under the skin? will i beep at airport security from now on? is the device made of any chemicals that eventually might leach out and cause problems down the road? what is the risk of infection from having the surgery, esp. w/ antibiotic resistance and MRSA rampant? is there a risk of an allergic reaction to the device? i don't mean to be a pessimist, but this is not like getting a wisdom tooth pulled.