Most definitely, but I did not know it was classified as a disorder.

yes and very happy she's no longer in my life. held out hope of change far too long!!

How did you know what my mother was like? You've met her? lol This describes her to a tee!!

Yes, and it is not easy to love them. But they do suffer in their own little world and understanding the circumstances that lead to the condition does help... a lot.

Interesting question. Why do you ask Cherry?

Oh u have met my ex husband

I was talking to my therapist about my oldest Son and the way he hasa need to be the best...have the most...control everyone. He's met my Son once and knew right away that he has this problem.

It's extremely difficult to deal with him unless I go along with whatever he says. Very soon, there's going to be a huge upet because I'm not letting him take over my survival plan. I really dread what he's going to say and do.

Sorry Cherry. It is a hard position to be in. Be strong and surround yourself with support. That personality is a challenge.

We all love our children but we don't have to like their personalities. Stay strong. Hugs -RJ

Thanks, RJ...this 'kid' is going to be 34 next week, has a Wife and 2 beautiful children of his own. I hope my Grandchildren survive being raised around this personality.

jenna, this is my mother, too. i've tried to deny it too long. i was referring to an ex-friend, but my mother is the worst. i have to get her out of my life completely. enough pretend relationship, so she can just continue abusing me. she's evil. that's the only word for it. i can't subject myself to her any more. evil.

One or more of your grandchildren will become resourceful, responsible and highly empathetic in their efforts to be nothing like thier father and because they had to surivive him. The best thing you could do for them is to let them know that you are there for them, especially on the emotional level.

He/she will likely have a very low self esteem so it would be nice if someone in the family keeps reminding the children that they are important and valuable under that great ego shadow until they learn to stand on their own.

People referred to my mother as Zsa Zsa behind her back. I later called her Mother Dearest because of what went on behind closed doors. People used to compliment her on how well behaved her five children were yet she looked so put together. Hmmmmm, I wonder how that happened?!

Strong kids grow out of adversity so that is the good news. Life is like that; noboday gets dealt all the good cards so we play the hand we get, the best that we can. Hugs to you darlin.

I know 2 people that have this disorder and one i had to cut out of my lffe cause she was just too much to deal with and one is my sons half brother and thats a whole other ball of wax

im thinking of your grandkids cherry cause it must be hard haveing a parent with this disroder. Hopefully the mom is sane. I still belive that the kids usually do just fine in life if they have one stable sane parent.

hugs and prayers

stbx, and his momma. oh and his brother and dad.

cherry, that must be so much harder to watch and experience in your situation. it's different if you meet a narcissist. you don't have to be troubled with questions about where it came from or if it's only happening to you. i'm so sorry. i just want you to know that as often as they sell this as a mental condition....

a whole lot of times...

it's really a choice..

and there's nothing you can ever do or undo to change that. at 34.. (says the 33 year old hen...) you're doing a great job of letting go and letting it go. you cannot change it now if you ever could have. i really, really, really feel for you at this point in my experience.

and i'm so sorry. i hope that you never take on any sort of self blame. the narcissist is just so because he prefers it that way.

-jen