Syringomyelia Support Group
Syringomyelia is a disorder in which a cyst or tubular cavity forms within the spinal cord. This cyst, called a syrinx, expands and elongates over time, destroying the center of the spinal cord resulting in pain, weakness, and stiffness in the back, shoulders, arms, or legs.
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I have a Thoracic syrinx at T8-9 that is 2.5 mm and I feel like I am going nuts. Three months ago I had burning in my shoulder blade. I starting having stabbing pain to the left of the center of my spine. I have a tightness in my ribs all the way around that is like a pressure and it feels like I can not breath in all the way. From there the symptoms kept progressing. I have weakness in my right arm. Occasional numbness in my pinky and ring fingers for both hands. Numbness in the right side of my face that comes and goes. When I turn my head and hold it there in any direction I get a stabbing pain in the center of my spine. The base of my skull aches. I have migraines. I am 36 and my period stopped about the time the pain started. I have hot flashes that only happen when I lay on my side. When I lay on my back I can't breath and it feels like something is bunched up under my lower back. I have no symptoms in my legs.
I have been to two neurosurgeons, one had no clue the other said that it is just muscular. I went to a neurologist, who is supposed to be a great doctor at the U of Miami and his explanation what that it was muscular and a nerve in my elbow from using the computer, and maybe fibromyalgia, and no explanation for the stabbing pain in my spine, and no explanation for the numbness in my face. He gave me like five prescriptions despite the fact that he doesn't really know what's going on. I don't want drugs, I want to know what is happening.
Does anyone have some of the same symptoms? Please describe how your symptoms started. Also, does anyone know of a good neurosurgeon/neurologist? I'm in Florida, but I'm willing to travel.
I have been to two neurosurgeons, one had no clue the other said that it is just muscular. I went to a neurologist, who is supposed to be a great doctor at the U of Miami and his explanation what that it was muscular and a nerve in my elbow from using the computer, and maybe fibromyalgia, and no explanation for the stabbing pain in my spine, and no explanation for the numbness in my face. He gave me like five prescriptions despite the fact that he doesn't really know what's going on. I don't want drugs, I want to know what is happening.
Does anyone have some of the same symptoms? Please describe how your symptoms started. Also, does anyone know of a good neurosurgeon/neurologist? I'm in Florida, but I'm willing to travel.
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I have recently been diagnosed with a thoracic syrinx and feel the same way you do. Your post could have been written by me except my symptoms are on the left. The base of my skull feels like it will explode, and I feel like my diaphram cannot expand enough to let me breathe. I have tingly feelings on my left side, including the tip of my nose. Sitting is excrutiating after a short while and I am losing control of my left hand. This all happened very suddenly. I had pains here and there for a while, but nothing that was consistent. Then, in February my tailbone started aching constantly, followed by symptoms in my foot, then my leg, and right on up to my nose. At all times, I feel like I have an electrical current running through the left side of my body.
I have an appointment with a neurosurgeon this week. I was looking forward to the appointment until I saw your post. My orthopedic doctor made it sound like it needed to come out immediately, but now I am worried that the neurosurgeon will send me on my way. He is supposed to be the best in the city and I will let you know how my appointment goes. If he's familiar with the condition and willing to remove it, you may want to make an appointment with him since you have not been successful with your local doctors. I am 52 years old and live in New Orleans. I don't get on here often, but if you would like, you can e-mail me at lvwalker9@aol.com.
I am in cleveland and we have some of the best doctors in the country here. Between University Hosp and Cleveland Clinic I have seen 2 pain management doctors, 3 neurologists and 2 neurosurgeons. None the less, I havent made any progress. All the doctors have heard of SM, none of them treated me like a psych patient, but the answer is always the same. Treat the symptoms. I am not a candidate for surgery, in fact, my scans were reviewed by Dr Benzel who is a top neurosurgeon for SM. He wouldnt even see me, sent me to a colleague, who explained that I was not a candidate for surgery and that I need to just treat the symptoms.
I didnt want drugs either, we are naturalists here, we take echinacea for colds, and use grapefruit seed extract for ear infections etc. The pain was awful though. I started taking St Johns Wort, because it is a natural nervine. It wasnt enough. I was diagnosed in Feb 2012 and I now take the maximum dose of Gralise daily (1800mg), 8 mgs of Zanaflex, a high bp pill and benadryl every single day. And Im not sure what to do from here, my pain is still averaging a 7, my right foot is beginning to drop like my left. I see my neuro on Tues and we will see where we go from here.
You may want to start with Physical Therapy, I was in PT for about 18 mos, they helped me learn about proper body mechanics and how to put my hip and shoulder back in place (after the muscle relaxers joints seem to be too flexible). I got a new bed and couch that support my back better, I use proper posture and I sleep with a cervical pillow. These things made a huge difference, I still have pain but the tingling and numbness is lessened.
My CM/SM is familial and I have 4 family members who all have had similar symptoms, so I know the syrinx is causing them. It's sad that we have to educate our doctors, but educate them we must.
Good luck dear. Gentle hugs.
My deal & tumor ( double wammy ) in @ T8-9 level ) I'm on fentanly 25 Mcg patch every 48 hrs ,,helps alot .and tramadol 4-6 hrs ..
incredible pressure pain in chest , and back tightness in chest when I inhale & shortness in breath ,, was diagnosed in 2009 ,,on disability since 2012 .. increased numbness in feet to ankles an weakness in legs ,,I have to make sure my feet are under me before I take a step OR I'LL FALL ..and I have fallen alot ... and I just get up I keep going ..the paralysis in guaranteed ,,,weither in 2 yrs or 10 depends on the determination of the person ...
i'm a fighter ...and I still drive a truck (casually CDL )3-4 days a month ...in the northwest ...some days are really bad when the pain breaks through the fent . & tram . and ibufrofen / tylenol ...then I use a tens unit ..neuro stim ..
the numbness in tingly / weakness in legs bothers me the most ..
the thought of a WHEEL CHAIR depress me the most ...i RATHER BE IN HEAVEN ...per say ...so I keep fighting !
so i recently got diagnosed after the radiologist found the syrinx on MRI and it was neither a neurologist nor Neurosurgeon who picked it up.
i have read through all the replies and can relate to almost everyone here i guess. this is bad news when u know abt it but it can be arrested and you can have some recovery if you find the cause and go for surgery.
the unique thing about syringomyelia is that every patient presents with a different set of symptoms and that is not how doctors are taught to diagnose. they follow a checklist.
as you all might have found out by now, this comes under the neurosurgeons and the primary cause of the formation of the syrinx is an abnormal CSF flow. this can be because of a chiari malformation (49%) or a tumor or inflamation of the arachnoid matter that absorbs CSF. your doctor needs to find out what is causing the bad csf flow which resulted in more of that fluid being pushed down into your spine. if he/she says that it is most likely idiopathic u need to stop seeing that doctor as it is rarest and a diagnosis of exclusion.
you dont have to rely on your doctor 100%. u can be a well informed patient, do ur research make your own checklist and take control.
Anyway, my syrinx is T3-11, I don't know the width but it is post traumatic after an RTA in 1981. I'd had weird sensations mainly re mobility for years and was finally diagnosed in 2007. My syrinx is inoperable, but I suppose if it expanded into my Cervical cord there may be a case for intervention. I recently queried autonomic dysreflexia, which can become a medical emergency, with specialist nurse who referred to Consultant. Neither of them knew anything about it which is shocking because I've been advised I have potential risk of as my original injury was #T5-8!
When I first started to research this condition as clinicians were useless, I read about the cape-like distribution of pain over neck, back and shoulders which I've had for years. Latterly the specialist nurse advised that the syrinx will only effect from below site, so for me basically all I have problems with from chest level and below! It appears I must attribute pain above this level to fibromyalgia which I was diagnosed with in 2013. I'm forever tired with little sustainable energy and sought explanation for this. Fibro is more a diagnosis of omission so can be rather contentious! Although a syrinx will be evidenced via MRI, this is only of value insofar as that is not in doubt. But as others discover, clinicians understand little and offer little. My accumulated knowledge and research (I was a mental health nurse for over 20 years) and logic attributes my widespread pain, discomfort, fatigue, spasm, spasticity, elimination difficulties and most worrying - mobility problems, to the syrinx. Coming to sites like this is of some value but I find that people seem disinclined to embark upon regular discussion?
Thank you all for sharing your individual experiences and providing sanity for those of us who can finally understand the cause of the symptoms instead of having nightmares about what Dr. google says possible causes are to the most random symptoms.
Warmest Regards,
Jacquelyn