Study of the Bible Community Group
The Bible unfolds like literature, and we follow the instructions like marching orders. The last orders supersede the previous ones. So the New Covenant (Testament) gives the design of who we are, what we do, and how we meet. What do you see in it, that can help us live better?
“And THE LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever”. Genesis 13:14-15
“And in thy (Abraham’s) seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice”. Genesis 22:18
“Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;” Genesis 26:3
We can see from this reference that one of the promises that make up the gospel (Galatians 3:8) was that Abraham and his seed would inherit the promised land – the land of Israel – forever. We can also see that not just the promised land is related to these promises but in fact the whole earth and all the nations in it who will be blessed through Abrahams promised seed, the Lord Jesus Christ (Gal 3:16). We read in the Bible that these promises have not yet been fulfilled:
“These (Faithful people of old of whom Abraham is mentioned in verse 17) all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth”. Hebrews 11:13
So this future blessing of all the nations of the earth being blessed, and the promised land being given to Abraham and his seed forever, are still future. It is a plain Bible teaching that God’s purpose is with the earth – consider these references:
“Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.” Matthew 5:5
“Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven”. Matthew 6:10
“…all the earth shall be filled with the glory oF THE LORD”. Numbers 14:21
“For thus saith THE LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited…” Isaiah 45:18
“…THE LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.” Zechariah 14:9
These promises will be fulfilled in a future Kingdom which is to be set up on the earth by Jesus Christ at his second coming.
“And in thy (Abraham’s) seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice”. Genesis 22:18
“Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;” Genesis 26:3
We can see from this reference that one of the promises that make up the gospel (Galatians 3:8) was that Abraham and his seed would inherit the promised land – the land of Israel – forever. We can also see that not just the promised land is related to these promises but in fact the whole earth and all the nations in it who will be blessed through Abrahams promised seed, the Lord Jesus Christ (Gal 3:16). We read in the Bible that these promises have not yet been fulfilled:
“These (Faithful people of old of whom Abraham is mentioned in verse 17) all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth”. Hebrews 11:13
So this future blessing of all the nations of the earth being blessed, and the promised land being given to Abraham and his seed forever, are still future. It is a plain Bible teaching that God’s purpose is with the earth – consider these references:
“Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.” Matthew 5:5
“Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven”. Matthew 6:10
“…all the earth shall be filled with the glory oF THE LORD”. Numbers 14:21
“For thus saith THE LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited…” Isaiah 45:18
“…THE LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.” Zechariah 14:9
These promises will be fulfilled in a future Kingdom which is to be set up on the earth by Jesus Christ at his second coming.
.....So EXACTLY....How we will be, what we will be doing.....And things of such a nature is a pointless thing to contemplate or worry about.....
....Guesstimating on the exacts of what will be is unnecessary....It causes strife, disagreements and is of no value.....
.....If....I get included....If God says you need to do this or that....Than that is what I will do......
.....The argument your are placing forth is whether I agree or disagree is just a fruitless bickering......
.....Instead fighting against the god of this world today, and warring against the poisons that are; might get us in the future......
I dont think It's pointless at all. I think it's something we should have an idead of. Just like in your faith, dont you "seek out" God's Word? Dont you want to know about what happens to you when Christ returns? Dont you want to have some idea on anything? It seems though that your worrying about it. I've read your other posts on what you think the future is like in heaven or something of that thought. There's nothing wrong with that mind you, I think it's great that we try to understand the bible and it's contexts.
.....Place the future kingdom on ignore; and instead focus on getting to it.......This is good sound advice....
.....Like a 3 year old does to a parent....They go into the WHY stage....Why is this here, what is that there......These questionings should never of stopped in youth but continued forth all our days.......
.....What is a steeple, why is it there?
.....Where has this cross symbol emitted from?
.....Where are the anti-Christs who are standing ( in the place of) Christ?
.....These things have value and lead to wisdom.....
..... Pondering s of what God has in store for those who love Him need not even be worried about until you get there......Get there, and then worry about it.....
Wow, it's funny you say that.. I was just going to say that to you!
[Place the future kingdom on ignore; and instead focus on getting to it.......This is good sound advice....]
Ingore the future Kingdom? Wow... Doesnt scripture tell us that we should have a vision? And where the people didnt have a vision they perish? So I guess that's not good sound advice. You shouldnt try to decieve people like that King.
[Pondering s of what God has in store for those who love Him need not even be worried about until you get there......Get there, and then worry about it..... ]
I totally dissagree on that one. And I"ll tell you why I say that. I dont think God wants us to just sit back for a free ride, do you? Doesnt scripture tell us that seek Him out? To study, to fear Him and keep His commandments? If you want to sit back and enjoy the ride, I wish you well.
....I have given you a factual account of what I have dealt with up to this point and I am certain that the pounding is still not over yet......
.....A focus on what the future is most certainly to be; and seeking God out have nothing to do with each other.....
.....If God IS working with you then there should be absolutely no way you are holding to these stances....
....Your denial of the Lord's deity and existence before the start of creation is complete evidence enough that something is way amiss with you......