Spouses of Transgender Community Group
Being transgender it's not easy but neither for their spouses. This group is created with the intention of helping and getting to know others that are in. the same situation or to just educate those that are on the other side of the fence and want to know how does it feel or how would it feel to be a spouse of a transgender person. The main objective of this group is...
I read somewhere that something like 40-50% of women fantasize about sex with another woman (or watch lesbian porn). That doesn't mean 40-50% of women are lesbians...
Do you think you will get divorced? Does he want it? I'm sure you will make the right decision, whatever that may be, but it's possibly a long way off.
I don't know you, so I don't know if it sounds like any sort of control, more a validation, as you say, seeking approval and support, and being very grateful when he gets it. Looking from the outside it sounds like he loves you very much.
Keep posting!
My spouse and I love each other very much, but this whole situation is just breaking my heart. :(
Your spouse may think the board is negative from their perspective, but I have found great encouragement personally from knowing I'm not alone in my struggles. I've also found it more productive to vent on here, rather than expressing all of my negative feelings with my spouse.
Try to stay strong Cora.
As far as the control, I would say look back at the relationship. If he has controlled you before, it is likely he is doing it again. If he just wants validation it is probably because he is insecure and feeling like others in that they want to be women but keep their wives too. Like having the best of ALL worlds. My daughter tells me that it sounds like my spouse wants his cake and to eat it too. I tend to agree with her.
As for the posting site, no matter where you go you are going to find bias. That is just the simple truth. On this site we are women, mostly, who have no idea what we are facing, what our futures hold, how to maintain our marriages, wondering how we caused this, or allowed it or missed it in the first place. We are women who need others in the same boats to talk to. If you go on Susan's site, you will likely find a great deal of people who feel we are whiners and babies and mean people that don't love and support their spouses. No matter where we go we will find bias. You have to go to the site that makes you feel heard, understood, and accepted. Which, you are here, as Sylph said.
I will tell you straight out that number 4 is a control thing. ABSOLUTELY. My first husband was a verbally and emotionally abusive man. He was insecure and controlling. Anger comes from fear. My spouse was afraid he was losing me and his anger pushed us away more and more. Your husband's anger comes from fear. You might want to talk with him about that, ask him what he is afraid of and then just talk - really talk. I say this to you, but I can't do it myself. I can't be honest because I don't know what the truth is for me.
I am sorry to hear that you are struggling with control issues because it adds a dimension to your relationship that clouds an already murky messy situation. Gaining your control back really requires counseling on your part. There are free counseling places in my state for women in domestic situations. You need to build up your confidence, feel secure with yourself, be able to say what you want and not feel like you have to vacillate or acquiesce to him.
I am so sad to read about all the new ladies that have been joining our unfortunate club. It makes my heart sad.
Yes, that is exactly it Jennifer! I pride myself on being sure of myself, but geez this roller coaster! How can we figure anything out on it!?!
"The part that bothers me is that it feels like he is controlling everything but at the same I feel like I am being made responsible for his happiness."
Exactly GR.
"Your husband's anger comes from fear. You might want to talk with him about that, ask him what he is afraid of and then just talk - really talk."
This is a really good suggestion 17. I will try it. I've talked a lot about my fears, but he hasn't really talked about his. I ended up just telling him that we weren't going to submit divorce papers the next day so he just needed to stop. I told our therapist about it and how I just can't deal with a divorce right now and ze was all, "Yeah, you guys aren't there yet." I needed to hear that.
First let me say that I believe that deep down inside, you know your husband is giving you good advice about coming here. Listening to others deny and talk about their grudging support and open resentment towards their spouses can't be that helpful. It's a temporary diversion on the road to something better and meaningful with your husband.
I'm gonna ask you to turn off your emotions and switch on your brain for just a minute. Why in the world do you think you husband needs constant validation from you? Could it be because he loves you and hopes to make this transition with you at his side? You say you love each other and I don't doubt that for one second. Ask yourself something. Do you love him for the person he is or the generic gender you've always taken for granted that he would be? I'm betting you love him fore himself and he feels your love is all encompassing and limitless. Who wouldn't want to hang onto that? Don't turn his need for your love and support into something as crass as mere validation. He could get that from his therapist or another transgender person who actually gets what he's going through and empathizes with his struggle. He prefers to share with you because he loves you.
It breaks my heart to hear how he lights up at the possibility of something as simple as you respecting him enough to call him by his proper pronoun. The fact that you feel some kind of way about doing that for the person you profess to love actually makes my chest hurt. It seems the ounce of human compassion that we all like to believe we have fractures so easily when pitted against our own self-serving need to maintain the status quo of our marital relationships.
That he hopes you might still be interested once he makes his transition to being a woman because you watched lesbian porn is perfectly normal. He's hoping you might love him as a human being enough to give the sex piece a try once he transitions. That a person would have to negotiate with t heir spouse this way for acceptance is sad. The fact that you can't manage to just let him know you love him and are open to exploring sex with him after his transition, even if it pushes the boundaries of what you thought you wanted in a relationship shows how thin our true commitment is when pitted against our own self interest.
That he is getting angry because you can't even say you are open to the possibility does not surprise me, for it's a betrayal of your supposed love for him as a person. The fact that you and others twist that into a power and control issue is simply sick. It's proof that you are being led in the wrong direction by a bunch of women who are even more confused and angry than you are during this time in their lives.
This is your moment to shine. To show your husband the kind of caring and compassionate person you are. To just for once, sit aside your own self-interest and put his needs first when he needs you the very most and let the chips fall where they might. This is your opportunity to shake off all the fear and take a leap of faith. You're stronger than you ever thought you were. The person you love needs you now more than ever. We don't get any guarantees in life, all we get are opportunities to do the right thing. This is yours.