Sex / Pornography Addiction Support Group
Sexual addiction, also sometimes called sexual compulsion, is a form of psychological addiction to sexual intercourse and other sexual behavior.
BryanHoward
Hi all,
I am new to this forum, and new to the idea of seeking group support for my pornography addiction. Below is my story, I have tried to stick to the key points without going into an auto-biography.
I am at the early stages of understanding and recognizing that I have had a pornography addiction for many years. I am in my mid thirties, married, with two children. I would love to say that I am here purely out of self-awareness, but I was caught red handed.
In the summer of 2013 my wife openned my laptop and found a host of porn videos that I had downloaded to my hardrive and a trail of websites. I was getting more and more sloppy at "covering my tracks" and she only had to open the laptop before she was confronted with something that on some level she was expecting to see.
Since that day I have continued to lie, I have rejected the idea that I have a problem, I have downplayed my addiction. But I was aware that my relationship was now falling apart, and that even the downplayed version of what I had done was enough to end it. No matter how much I pretended that this was no big deal or that it was somehow my wife's fault, she had facts - the evidence of my porn usage in that small space between "delete all internet history" was enough to confirm to her that this was the tip of an iceberg - she knew that I was doing this while she was in the house, while I was supposed to be working, while her mother was visiting. The truth is I was no longer (if ever) in control of my behaviour and I was only ever going to get caught.
Since then my wife and I started to see a relationship therapist, soon enough I opened up enough to be able to admit I needed to see a specialist. I have been seeing him, an additcion-experienced psychotherapist, for two bouts (he is very expensive). I saw him weekly for about 3 months and most recently I am on the 9th session of a new series of weeklies after seeing a less experience counsellor in between.
I have a big problem with intimacy. I put walls up and only my wife has gotten close enough to experience them - family, friends, they would all gladly support my falacy - that I was a perfectly normal person. My issues with intimacy run all the way back to my adolescence and I have been a habitual porn user since about 14. It used to be a nightly routine to help me sleep, then it became more of a passion and the internet boom coincided with my own freefall into using porn whenever i was bored, stressed, alone, aroused, etc etc. I think my fear of intimacy may have prevented me from taking it into the real world - but I did use webcam strip-sites and this information most recently shared with my wife has been incredibly painful for her - I was sharing something of myself and giving sexual compliments to these strangers, when my wife was ignored and made to feel repulsive.
One of the worst things that I have done is, shortly after the "honeymoon" period of our relationship I started to let porn back in the door, having spent much of the first few months quite rightly channeling my energy into our growing relationship. But soon my issues, and my inability to cope with life's stress - of which I had a decent helping of - led me to choose porn over being intimate with my wife.
During those early days it would have been such a subtle change that my wife found it much easier to assume that she was loosing her charm or her attractiveness to me. She had no reason to believe that I had these issues, I hid them very well and talked the talk of a fully healthy and happy man. Shutting that door to her in those earlier months was the worst thing I could have done to her and for myself. I began to assume two lifestyles, the outward "happy family man" and the secretive porn user that was only interested in self serving. It was like a cancer in my relationship, to my wife's self esteem. By the time it started to materialise in her depression and general unhappiness I was in such denial about my role, so consumed by the hard work that I felt I was putting in, that I genuinely took no responsibility for her, prefering to assume that she was simply that way inclined. The awful obvious truth is very painful for me to admit now; that I had promised her everything, gotten her pregnant, taken her out of her career, away from her old life, and dumped her to fend for herself.
I had a high-travel job from the 3rd to 8th year of our relationship, during which we struggled to make ends meet and brought two wonderful kids into the world. I loved the job - it enabled me to physically escape to different countries and hotels where I could use porn every single night and justify it to myself as a consequence of travel - I never reconciled it to the fact that I continued to do it on my return, albeit less frequently.
Two years ago my wife was at rock bottom and armed with very little knowledge of what I was doing, she at least knew that she was miserable and she gave me an ultimatum - change the job or we are in big trouble. Somewhere behind my lies and addiction I knew that this would be a good thing. So I made a half-assed effort to change our lifestyle, without talking any real responsibility for what was wrong with it in the first place.
So I took a new job, we moved to a different country, and I just kept on using porn. 6 months later, and about 8 years ito our relationship, my wife opens the laptop.
The last year has been a horrible mess. We have fought, said awful things to eachother, I have been a total dick - only conceding what she knew as fact, and still holding back. I had become so used to hiding from her that I was doing it with everything - I lost all boundaries and would simply hide things from her as a default, even if there was nothing wrong with it - I simply had guilt seeping out of my pores. The progress has been agonizingly slow, but as this has been going on for over a year I can at least see the progress - and this brings me to where I am today:
I am finally being accountable for what I have done, and how it has systematically destroyed my relationship with my wife and deeply hurt and damaged her. I still struggle to deal with my anxieties and in withdrawing from porn I feel the pull of alcohol, cigarettes (I gave up 10 yrs ago but am back onto them whenever I get too stressed). I get panicky and anxious in situations at work. But I have a great therapist and my wife has shown such profound strength to not run away. I dramatically reduced my porn usage over the last year, but I never really was prepared to stop, just hold back until "this crap" died down. It was only in September that I checked back in with my therapist and made the statement that I wanted to change. Nevertheless there is still a part of me that wants back in and that scares me.
I have not used porn since then. I can go for several days without needing to, but typically I get stressed about something or my wife and I argue, and I feel it calling. It is getting less powerful, and the more I am learning about the "why" the less I am attached to it. But I really feel as though I am still in abstenance, rather than recovery. I still find it hard to communicate with my wife about these things, to be truly intimate with her, I have stopped porn but it obviously hasn't "fixed" me. And it is made harder by the fact that she has a very real rage right now that I have prevented her from feeling as I drip-fed her the truth. She finally sent me a number of very specific questions, I answered them, I felt great to put the lies behind me, but my wife is obviously not there - she is only seeing this for it's true extent now - and only now is she able to start processing how she feels and what this means. So we are in a very tough place.
My therapist mentioned support groups, I went to google, I avoided the ones that complicated the matter with religious subscription, and found this place.
I look forward to reading more of the post here, sharing my struggle with you bunch of strangers, and hopefully saving my marriage and myself from the downard spiral.
I am new to this forum, and new to the idea of seeking group support for my pornography addiction. Below is my story, I have tried to stick to the key points without going into an auto-biography.
I am at the early stages of understanding and recognizing that I have had a pornography addiction for many years. I am in my mid thirties, married, with two children. I would love to say that I am here purely out of self-awareness, but I was caught red handed.
In the summer of 2013 my wife openned my laptop and found a host of porn videos that I had downloaded to my hardrive and a trail of websites. I was getting more and more sloppy at "covering my tracks" and she only had to open the laptop before she was confronted with something that on some level she was expecting to see.
Since that day I have continued to lie, I have rejected the idea that I have a problem, I have downplayed my addiction. But I was aware that my relationship was now falling apart, and that even the downplayed version of what I had done was enough to end it. No matter how much I pretended that this was no big deal or that it was somehow my wife's fault, she had facts - the evidence of my porn usage in that small space between "delete all internet history" was enough to confirm to her that this was the tip of an iceberg - she knew that I was doing this while she was in the house, while I was supposed to be working, while her mother was visiting. The truth is I was no longer (if ever) in control of my behaviour and I was only ever going to get caught.
Since then my wife and I started to see a relationship therapist, soon enough I opened up enough to be able to admit I needed to see a specialist. I have been seeing him, an additcion-experienced psychotherapist, for two bouts (he is very expensive). I saw him weekly for about 3 months and most recently I am on the 9th session of a new series of weeklies after seeing a less experience counsellor in between.
I have a big problem with intimacy. I put walls up and only my wife has gotten close enough to experience them - family, friends, they would all gladly support my falacy - that I was a perfectly normal person. My issues with intimacy run all the way back to my adolescence and I have been a habitual porn user since about 14. It used to be a nightly routine to help me sleep, then it became more of a passion and the internet boom coincided with my own freefall into using porn whenever i was bored, stressed, alone, aroused, etc etc. I think my fear of intimacy may have prevented me from taking it into the real world - but I did use webcam strip-sites and this information most recently shared with my wife has been incredibly painful for her - I was sharing something of myself and giving sexual compliments to these strangers, when my wife was ignored and made to feel repulsive.
One of the worst things that I have done is, shortly after the "honeymoon" period of our relationship I started to let porn back in the door, having spent much of the first few months quite rightly channeling my energy into our growing relationship. But soon my issues, and my inability to cope with life's stress - of which I had a decent helping of - led me to choose porn over being intimate with my wife.
During those early days it would have been such a subtle change that my wife found it much easier to assume that she was loosing her charm or her attractiveness to me. She had no reason to believe that I had these issues, I hid them very well and talked the talk of a fully healthy and happy man. Shutting that door to her in those earlier months was the worst thing I could have done to her and for myself. I began to assume two lifestyles, the outward "happy family man" and the secretive porn user that was only interested in self serving. It was like a cancer in my relationship, to my wife's self esteem. By the time it started to materialise in her depression and general unhappiness I was in such denial about my role, so consumed by the hard work that I felt I was putting in, that I genuinely took no responsibility for her, prefering to assume that she was simply that way inclined. The awful obvious truth is very painful for me to admit now; that I had promised her everything, gotten her pregnant, taken her out of her career, away from her old life, and dumped her to fend for herself.
I had a high-travel job from the 3rd to 8th year of our relationship, during which we struggled to make ends meet and brought two wonderful kids into the world. I loved the job - it enabled me to physically escape to different countries and hotels where I could use porn every single night and justify it to myself as a consequence of travel - I never reconciled it to the fact that I continued to do it on my return, albeit less frequently.
Two years ago my wife was at rock bottom and armed with very little knowledge of what I was doing, she at least knew that she was miserable and she gave me an ultimatum - change the job or we are in big trouble. Somewhere behind my lies and addiction I knew that this would be a good thing. So I made a half-assed effort to change our lifestyle, without talking any real responsibility for what was wrong with it in the first place.
So I took a new job, we moved to a different country, and I just kept on using porn. 6 months later, and about 8 years ito our relationship, my wife opens the laptop.
The last year has been a horrible mess. We have fought, said awful things to eachother, I have been a total dick - only conceding what she knew as fact, and still holding back. I had become so used to hiding from her that I was doing it with everything - I lost all boundaries and would simply hide things from her as a default, even if there was nothing wrong with it - I simply had guilt seeping out of my pores. The progress has been agonizingly slow, but as this has been going on for over a year I can at least see the progress - and this brings me to where I am today:
I am finally being accountable for what I have done, and how it has systematically destroyed my relationship with my wife and deeply hurt and damaged her. I still struggle to deal with my anxieties and in withdrawing from porn I feel the pull of alcohol, cigarettes (I gave up 10 yrs ago but am back onto them whenever I get too stressed). I get panicky and anxious in situations at work. But I have a great therapist and my wife has shown such profound strength to not run away. I dramatically reduced my porn usage over the last year, but I never really was prepared to stop, just hold back until "this crap" died down. It was only in September that I checked back in with my therapist and made the statement that I wanted to change. Nevertheless there is still a part of me that wants back in and that scares me.
I have not used porn since then. I can go for several days without needing to, but typically I get stressed about something or my wife and I argue, and I feel it calling. It is getting less powerful, and the more I am learning about the "why" the less I am attached to it. But I really feel as though I am still in abstenance, rather than recovery. I still find it hard to communicate with my wife about these things, to be truly intimate with her, I have stopped porn but it obviously hasn't "fixed" me. And it is made harder by the fact that she has a very real rage right now that I have prevented her from feeling as I drip-fed her the truth. She finally sent me a number of very specific questions, I answered them, I felt great to put the lies behind me, but my wife is obviously not there - she is only seeing this for it's true extent now - and only now is she able to start processing how she feels and what this means. So we are in a very tough place.
My therapist mentioned support groups, I went to google, I avoided the ones that complicated the matter with religious subscription, and found this place.
I look forward to reading more of the post here, sharing my struggle with you bunch of strangers, and hopefully saving my marriage and myself from the downard spiral.
One thing about addiction is it feeds an instant gratification existence and what can trip up addicts is when they start out and don't see instant results. Often laziness is present. So the idea that something like this takes three to five years of very real and painful work well is just not all that appealing to the addict brain. But that is just how the real world operates and you have to get your brain to think in real world terms. So although it may not seem presently positive you are investing and working toward something that in the end will produce a harvest. This especially being true with your wife. She isn't looking for short term results she is looking to see if your recovery will stand the test of time.
Yes inpart the recovery is about abstinence but not only abstinence not giving into the addict brain SO THAT your brain can ultimately be rewired and form new nuropathways. I'm sure nothing of what I am saying your therapist has not already explained. So as a wife of a sex addict who started recovery seven years ago I can say I am very happily married to my husband life is not perfect I am not perfect my husband is not perfect but we've learned alot in those years we have grown closer together and we continue to work out the issues as they come. We continue to choose each other and our beautiful family is a blessing and a gift. So I have every hope that you and your wife can say the same things if you choose to stay the course and let time do it's work. I hate the saying but sometimes in the beginning you got to fake it tell you make it. Which means you just keep at even though you may not feel healed or changed eventually you will.
I'm sure some folks in recovery can give you some great advice for the stress that seems to trigger you. One thing my husband gained in this is a relationship with God or higher power and learning to let go and not let that stress overtake you. If religion is not your thing the Sex Addicts Anonymous groups are a safe and open group for accountability and learning to turn stuff over. They don't push religion they just recognize that they can't manage themselves and look to a higher power to help. If it didn't work I suppose those groups wouldn't still be thriving. Just a thought.
I have read alot of things about the potential upside of a reboot and I am starting to put together a plan for mine to reinforce what is basically abstinance right now. I look forward to learning more about the process and trying to learn from other people's insights here.
Having said that, I believe that is part of why I think his recovery is able to be genuine this time (he tried to white-knuckle it before)--between the abstinence and the therapy, and then adding in the 12 step, the addiction is finally beginning to be addressed for what it is. It's not easy on the spouse--I got resentment and anger directed at me, and I have to say, if he relapses, I will not go through this process with him again. But if he had not gone through this process in the first place, I don't think I would have been able so stay with him now.
I posted my story a few hours ago,my post is above yours. I wish my husband would just come clean and admit to what he's up too.
I believe he has lead a double life throughout our marriage, loving father and family man by day and porn junkie by night,i think he actually gets a high out of the secrecy.
I don't have much advice for you as i am at a loss for words with my situation but as a wife dealing with this(second time round), i can tell you that if you don't overcome this addiction and go about getting the best help out there no matter what it costs, your marriage will not last.
I just have one question,did the frequent use of porn take away your desire for intercourse with your wife,what i mean is did the sex become less and less more frequent sex for you??
I really wish you all the best and you can do it xxx
Trickle disclosure causes the most pain and trauma to us spouses. The good thing is it is all out now, and as long as you remain in recovery, and transparent you will never hurt her that way fresh again.
Do you attend a 12 step SAA meeting?
Rage is a normal part of her healing process, she really could use some help for her own healing and learn ways to be angry and not hurt the marriage anymore then it is already hurt. Perhaps a therapist for her too? And then down the line marriage therapy is good idea too. Are you being honest with her? Does she know it all?
I feel refreshed to have no more secrets, but I am concerned about my capacity to lie in the lead up to and aftermath of a "relapse". But going onto yourbrainonporn website has given me tools and I will take them to my therapist and go on a formal program - something that I can be measured against.
So my wife is now seeing the counsellor that we started off seeing for relationship guidance - she is great, has my wife's back, know's me, so is in a good position to give my wife the strength to leave me or to stay. I am seeing a psychotherapist with exerience in addiction (albeit not porn addiction) - he is fantastic and has a great balance between "listenning" interjecting when I am evasive or just being an idiot, and always links things to the nuts and bolts of my physiology - which is what a man likes to link things to.
I have been without porn since early September and I am both empowered by this and daunted by the road ahead. But I am a least, after two years, being totally honest with my wife. She is acually reading my posts on this site - I realise that I am writing most of this stuff as a way of communicating to her some of the things that I have struggled too without reacting to her hurt or becoming defensive.
I have a long road ahead and I am aware that my "reboot" is really only just that. I then need to put the peices back together - it might be 3-5 years before I can really look back on my addiction from the outside - and that is the success story that is dwarfed by the many failures out there. My wife has this connundrum - does she trust me to try to succeed, to want to succeed, to actually succeed, and even if I do have I already done enough to ensure that she will never trust or feel safe with me again? The only thing I can focus on is that I am either going to be her healed ex-husband or her healed husband.
gardensparrow
#girlluvs2garden#
I am shocked that TWO YEARS after my wife found my internet activity, and I admitted that maybe I have a little problem, I have only this week had the guts to go online and type "Porn Addiction Support Group".
I have only just discovered this forum, yourbrainonporn, recovery nation, and yourbrainrebalanced. I feel like I have walked into a superstore specifically catering to my needs and I have for browsers open with each site permanently at the moment!
I have already read that I can expect to experience a lull in this reboot once the initial buzz of "I am doing the right thing" dies down - and that may be why I need real humans to be even more accountable to. But right now I am pleased with the tools and support I have.
I am excited about going to my therapist on Tuesday and gushing about what I have learned, and I am updating my wife on all that I am learning too.
gardensparrow
#girlluvs2garden#
sounds like you are on the road to recovery, it doesnt have to be a solo journey...actually the addiction is all about being alone, isolated, private, so coming here is a huge step away from addiction. There are countless people that are working on recovery, and spouses that are dealing with trauma, all we can do is support one and another, tell what has worked and hasnt and share in the journey. Have you considered going to a SAA or SA group in person?
This is not just about my recovery, I am aware that I am protecting my social anxiety as well as the shame that I feel. I am also not a religious person and get very cold feet when I feel an ideology being pushed behind the recovery program - something that seems prevelant in many support groups. Perhaps I am wrong?
I am glad to read that you arent fighting the fight alone though, therapy, your brother, this forum and your wife supporting you are all great ways to stay accountable. Once an addict is accountable, truly accountable, relapsing seems not an option anymore.
I believe you can do phone meetings too...