Schizophrenia Support Group
Schizophrenia is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a mental disorder characterized by impairments in the perception of reality and by significant social dysfunction. Untreated schizophrenia is typically characterized by demonstrating disorganized thinking and experiencing delusions or auditory hallucinations.
Research suggests that my exposure to DDT, following the mosquito sprayer as a kid, while living out east; the cumulative affects caused my own paranoid schizophrenia, along with several head injuries growing up that caused a concussion.
Living with paranoid-schizophrenia is like walking into a three-ring circus from hell, with no way out, unless on a regiment of medications that finally works to manage it. My demons mainly come out in my sleep now and at their worse in the past, I would foresee a horrible death by man or accident and waking up drenched in sweat from my head to chest.
For what its worth, schizophrenics tend to be more into themselves, avoiding social contact for a variety of reasons. Changing voice inflections you have no control over or getting your thoughts jumbled up and it comes out as my VA shrink says as word salad. I can be happy in my own little world at home, just staring off into space and letting thoughts go by and playing with them, getting lost in them and everything outside myself no longer exists. My dogs and cat help redirect me to reality, as in requiring loving attention, getting fed and my one baby knows when its treat time and when she expects the wet stinky food to be served, whether Im cooking for myself or not.
From my personal drug experience during my youth, the major problem with hallucinogenics is that you have absolutely NO control over what your mind sees and the outcomes strongly reflects your present state of mind, hidden anxieties, fears and all. Think of an out of control drunk that doesnt sleep for the next 8 hours. LSD was created to study schizophrenias mental affects and being older and wiser, I cant imagine WHY young adults would want to take those bath salts, with effects that to me mirror schizophrenia and the paranoia and tortuous scenes that keep playing like a movie and you are all alone in yourself and no one to talk to about it, unless you have some understanding relative or friend and even then its an uncomfortable topic to talk about.
Living with paranoid-schizophrenia is like walking into a three-ring circus from hell, with no way out, unless on a regiment of medications that finally works to manage it. My demons mainly come out in my sleep now and at their worse in the past, I would foresee a horrible death by man or accident and waking up drenched in sweat from my head to chest.
For what its worth, schizophrenics tend to be more into themselves, avoiding social contact for a variety of reasons. Changing voice inflections you have no control over or getting your thoughts jumbled up and it comes out as my VA shrink says as word salad. I can be happy in my own little world at home, just staring off into space and letting thoughts go by and playing with them, getting lost in them and everything outside myself no longer exists. My dogs and cat help redirect me to reality, as in requiring loving attention, getting fed and my one baby knows when its treat time and when she expects the wet stinky food to be served, whether Im cooking for myself or not.
From my personal drug experience during my youth, the major problem with hallucinogenics is that you have absolutely NO control over what your mind sees and the outcomes strongly reflects your present state of mind, hidden anxieties, fears and all. Think of an out of control drunk that doesnt sleep for the next 8 hours. LSD was created to study schizophrenias mental affects and being older and wiser, I cant imagine WHY young adults would want to take those bath salts, with effects that to me mirror schizophrenia and the paranoia and tortuous scenes that keep playing like a movie and you are all alone in yourself and no one to talk to about it, unless you have some understanding relative or friend and even then its an uncomfortable topic to talk about.
What you say is so true. I don't have Schizophrenia but my son does and I am not by far an expert just a parent. My son is 23 and he was a big weed smoker and I feel that his Schizophrenia was drug induced. He also has the gene in his family on his fathers side as well. My son does not like talking about the symptoms he experienced when he was not medicated. He tells me that he can't remember them to well. He is doing great now thanks to the medication he takes. I have a question for everyone though. I find that his reactions to different things now are emotionless if that makes sense. Things that would tick him off before he was diagnosed don't anymore. For example when I ended up in the hospital with a collapsed lung, he said oh nothing is going to happen to you it will all be fine. Before his emotion would display distress. His reaction to things are kind of wierd now. Maybe the anti-depressant and Risperdal is acting to well. Can anyone give me a better understanding?
Yes its difficult to talk about, as it all sounds over the top and crazy, like youre just making it up as you go alonglike the last dream I had before waking up. I gave my Boxer a pair of hotdogs tied together in the natural casing and two small dogs, like a Scotch Terrier and other one were chasing my dog and with the typical weirdness, she has the same face, but with the long body of a Dachshund (the hot dog dog as they call them).. well my Boxer eats most of it, but then this Terrier starts eating my dog and the last thing I see is one front paw, but its a huge bear claw and then I wake up.
Yes, we are starting to ask questions on what chemicals where used over there. There is also a ten-year health study going on in Australia to get a idea of other effects are going on.
But the effect on how I was raised does also have a huge impact on my mental health as well. Not that I'm really laying blame. The reality of what my dad had to face was a nightmare in it's self. Being forced to fight in a war no one wanted and after all I was raised by someone who was diagnosed with a mental illness (PTSD).
I cant find the one article I was looking for on a paper written by a Pdoc on the effects of the Vietnam War, how it affected the soldiers and how it affected raising the family. There really has been so much on the effects of that war in the last few years .
But there are some therapys that believe that some people are just born with a chemical imbalance and one particular moment in time triggered that off. If you where completely mentally healthy at the time. You wouldnt have triggered it off.
I didn't know it was called flatness. I can get him to laugh now which is great to watch him finally laugh but when it comes to a tragedy he acts detached. If he gets dissapointed he just says stuff like I'll live when before he reacted different. Thanks for giving me some insight on flatness. I think he suffers from this and shuts down to protect his feelings.
The government likes to sweep things under the rug, minimize it and deny any initial wrong doing until they cant keep the lid on the gossip. It wasnt until the late 80s they admitted that Agent Orange, a broad-spectrum herbicide caused various mental and physical disorders and diseases in Viet Nam vets. Skin diseases are common, along with respiratory problems and various cancers. It also causes birth defects of a wide assortment. This past decade its been Gulf War Syndrome, from exposure to toxic gases in canisters released during the first invasion, which were in the oil fields and on rigs after they set fire to them in a scorch and burn retreat policy. Fortunately they didnt drag their feet so long in addressing the problems.
FYI: It became known as agent orange from the orange colored barrels it was stored in; which was to distinguish it from diesel fuel (green), gasoline and lubricating oils. I was attached to a heavy bomber wing, so way far from the action and that was just fine with me.
Your right about the causes of Schizophrenia being a debate. My son was born in January, they say that children born in winter months can get schizophrenia. My son also had yellonjidice (probably spelled wrong) they say this is also a way they can get schizophrenia and he also was a heavy marijuanna smoker. I don't know which one to go with all I know is it's here and we have to deal with it. I will however say that he was symptom free until he went out one night and smoked several ounces of weed with a stranger and the very next day started having symptoms of schizophrenia. I feel that his was more drug induced however he has three first cousins that suffer from the disease as well. You mentioned Lsd and wanted to know if you think LSD if laced with Marijuanna can cause schizophrenia if you have never had symptoms of it?
What little I do know about LSD is it's often used in the testing when doing research into schizophrenia. As it is the closest, they can come to recreating a schizophrenic psychosis on demand.
But I think THC (marijuana) has the most first triggers to its name probably because although mostly illegal everywhere is still considered as a socially acceptable recreational drug to most people and probably the most obtainable for that reason.
But I also had a similar reaction to one of the house hold cold and flu remedies of the 60s/70s when I was about 8-9. I forgot all about it until about 8 years ago had a cold and was so blocked up. Tried one of the steaming bath remedies with one of the leading chest rubs in an attempt for some relief . It did trigger of some form of psychosis for about an hour. I was seeing a therapist at the time and brought up both incidents her reply was I think you just have bad reactions to most chemicals. When it comes down to it all, especially with this post it is really is a case of what came first the chicken or the egg.
Ive read articles and I stick to government, university studies and well recognized organizations to find the real facts. I highly doubt he smoked all those ounces, as you can only get so high, depending upon the quality and how much young throat and lungs can handle the harshness. Yes, theres been a few studies regarding weed inducing schizophrenia and with their being a genetic marker for it in your extended family, the probability increases greatly, that your son too, will and has that genetic disposition.
You cant smoke LSD laced pot as the heat destroys this complex chemical. Unscrupulous drug dealers, hey what do you expect, will sometimes lace mediocre pot with cocaine, heroin, meth, speed or a designer drug. Its literally Russian roulette. The next joint can send you off the deep end of paranoia for some or even hallucinations, which can lead to aggressive and suicidal tendencies.
It may be a case of the knee bone connected to your thigh bone. Thigh bone connected to your hip bone.. You really can get lost with it all sometimes.
There has been debate on what society does call a genius for ages. Even Im starting to question what is a true definition of intelligence.
As one of CLs on the BP board pointed out to me. When posting famous people from the past with mental illnesses you are diagnosing their work and only some personal accounts from friends and family members rather than the person.
Some of relationships with the mental illnesses and other issues are extremely close, as I have mentioned a few above. In most cases, many of the geniuses where suffering multiple issues at the time that can be proven including drug use. This can be a large factor into with their wok and can confuse a true diagnosis since there no longer with us.
I also know how much I was taken back I was by his reply. I really mean no disrespect and they really may have been suffering from mental illness. The reality is we will never really know but all true geniuses do suffer for their work usually in obscurity. i.e. we dont notice them/it until theyre gone.
I did mention this quote to Plywood in a post it is a case of the silence can be deafening at times.