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Rheumatoid arthritis is a chronic, inflammatory, multisystem, autoimmune disorder. It is a disabling and painful condition which can lead to substantial loss of mobility due to pain and joint destruction. The disease is also systemic in that it often also affects many extra-articular tissues throughout the body including the skin, blood vessels, heart, lungs, and...

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RA is all in your...

nesbitt
nesbitt
...gut?

I found this to be an interesting article.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/01/joint-pain-from-the-gut/383772/
nesbitt
nesbitt
Another article...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130117133003.htm
confoosed
confoosed
Okay, so, this really is a epiphany. Theyre finding depression and anxiety can be influenced by gut baceria too. Turns out the little buggers modify/produce neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin...

Think about the judemental list of symptoms they use when describing RA patients, especially in the bad old days when they said it was a womens disease, and blamed mental issues...

Anxiety
Depression
Asthma
Joint pain

They thought it was caused by depression, when in fact, there maybe a one cause for the entire list. Thought provoking!
depotblue
depotblue
i going to go iive in Finland so the researchers can use me. i've been a vegan for years initiated by the desire to control some aspect of my environment during the progression of this disease and treatment. i wish my microbiome would comply and improve my auto immune disease symptoms forthwith. i'll send a memo. i can tell you that it has incredible effects on my lipid panel it is just not correlating to my RA. break out the meat and dairy and fish and poultry. not.

depot
nesbitt
nesbitt
I wonder about some of the suggestions (kids raised on farms have fewer immune problems. my kin were all farmers!), and I doubt there's an all-in-one solution, but I think it's an interesting avenue of exploration. I've long been one to resist antibiotics, then always supplement with probiitics afteran AB course. Billions of organisms, but are they the actually replacing anything or introducing something?

I'm not exactly sure what you meant, depot. Are you saying your vegan diet helps your lipids but not your RA symptoms? And, "break out the meat" etc. was a joke referencing the Mediterranean diet? My diet is similar to that, but not for RA. I've never known any diet are fodds that affect my RA, for good or bad.
depotblue
depotblue
i always had a good profile. now it and the triglycerides are like a excellent. never the intent of the veganism, halting ra inflammation in my joints was.

yeah, I was being facetious. as if to say, since it hasn't worked on the RA I should just have a prime rib with clam chowda on the side and a white russian. yes, that was a joke.

the veganism has now become like an old buddy, it makes me happy so I'll keep it. out of this whole long strange ra trip the only thing that has come good out of it, for myself, has been the veganism. i do not think i would have ever considered it if I had not been introduced to this disease. so what the hell. something good out of something not so good

depot