Rheumatoid Arthritis Support Group
Rheumatoid arthritis is a chronic, inflammatory, multisystem, autoimmune disorder. It is a disabling and painful condition which can lead to substantial loss of mobility due to pain and joint destruction. The disease is also systemic in that it often also affects many extra-articular tissues throughout the body including the skin, blood vessels, heart, lungs, and...
improvement in the last couple weeks since i started doing all this. Dr. started me on Pheniquil but he said that can take 2-3mos before i see any difference so I know its not the medication since its only been a few weeks. People will say different things about natural supplements and diet and i know everyone is different. I have been doing a lot of my own research and this is what has helped me so far. Again..I am newly diagnosed and I know Its a long journey I will be on. My dr. okayed all my supplements to take while on Pheniquil…you are not on anything yet so wouldn't hurt to try some natural supplements and experiment with your diet. That stinks that you cant' get into a dr for that long! I hope that changes for you… hang in there and good luck:)
You need to start on DMARDS as soon as possible. I would push for MTX rather than for plaquenil, which rarely helps.
While diet and exercise are helpful, they do nothing to stop the progressive joint damage that comes with RA. You need to be on a DMARD.
For the record......going on a gluten free diet is only for those who truly are gluten free......and very, very few people truly are.
I TOTALLY disagree with taking supplements unless you have deficient blood work that supports taking one or more. Too many people assume supplements are useful when in fact they can cause more damage if taken without a documented blood test demonstrating the need for them.
There are 2 separate area's of RA.
1) Pain, inflammation/swelling management
2) Damage control.
Pain & inflammation can be managed with Prednisone which is the typical first step to get you back in line before putting you on a good DMARD like Methotrexate or on here it's called MTX & then then Prednisone is weaned off.
As far as supplements the only one that I've experienced that goes hand in hand with MTX is Folic Acid which helps with nausea.
But I too was recently diagnosed within the past few years & I had hi anti-ccp as well >250, RF was neg, ESR was normal. Just an FYI the anti-ccp has come way down, my most recent in 9/2016 was 53 which is still high but hey it's way better than where I was!
And borrow money if you have to, to go to Seattle. There might be a hospice you can stay at there while you are seeing the doctor and getting any further tests done. Do you live on the Panhandle, or in the main part of Alaska? It is a short trip to some Canadian cities which might or might not have a rheumatologist. I will say, that if you wait a year to start treatment, you may get permanent joint damage, and the disease gets worse if it doesn't get hit hard at the beginning, I am a prime example of that, 18 years ago, they knew nothing about how severe sero-negative can become.
I will say, that for my money, the blood tests are only guidelines. It is symptoms that count. If you are in pain, especially with hot, swollen joints, the sooner you get on meds the better.
Welcome to the group. Please keep asking questions. We are not professionals, but we can share our experiences and certainly support you on this RA journey.
PS. Don't give up or worry about the future. Many people have really good outcomes on the various meds that are available today.
kmac22, I'm certain you'll take a heat from a few hard-liners about supplements and diet, but do what you think helps and keep an open mind and open eye about RA drugs. Do you mean plaquenil, rather than Pheniquil? Please be open to periodic monitoring for joint deformities.
My personal feeling about RA, and health in general, is that if it works, don't knock it. Even a placebo effect can have powerful healing properties. I advocate trusting your instincts, knowing your body, and being open to reaxamination of plans, based on extrinsic testing.
There used to be a group at DS for Alternative therapies, but I think it's disappeared. Look for it and see if anyone is still posting. There's one fellow, nonightshades2 (?), who swears by a no nightshade diet. I tried that, with no effect. Do you have celiac disease or are you gluten-intolerant? If you are, you may gain some relief from a gluten-free diet. I had some tests done to make sure I did not have celiac. Be careful with vitamin D. It's a critical piece of a complicated cycle that maintains calcium in your blood (serum calcium) and in the ionized form (free calcium, unbound to other protens) which is used for muscle function and as a neurotransmitter. If you take too much vitamin, D, you can upset the balance, causing increased calcium absorption, which sets off the parathyroid glands creating excess PHP, which ends up in leeching calcium from your bones, ending in osteopenia or osteoporosis. I'm being evaluated for hypercalcemia (1 1/2) years, so this is near and dear. Have you been tested for vit. d (Vitamin D-25 Hydroxy)? The standard low end to the range is 30 somethings, but endocrinologists will tell you that you're probable safe above 20, and if you supplement, please avoid the big splashes (even 5000 iU's). I'm an exercise and diet fanatic, and even if it never did a thing for my RA, I feel there's enough pressure put on all my organs, as well as joints, so why not make sure I do the best I can for my body as a whole? I AM NOT RA. I ams omebody, like you who is dealing as I know best. Until you become convinced you should do something else, trust yourself. Do stay vigilant. I'm glad you're feeling some improvement.
BTW, I don't know anything about Boswellia, personally, but I take in a fair amount of turmeric, ginger and garlic through cooking. It's nothing like what you get in capsulated form, but I like real, fresh foods, so it makes more sense to me.
Good luck to both of you. We're all different in the way disease manifests itself, and in what helps us. If somebody replies to this thread telling you what you should or should not do, measure that against everything else you hear or know. There are some who like to dispense "medical" advice, but they're not doctors.
BTW, if you haven't already, take a look at Warrior Gal's post about her journey. She contracted RA before they had the modern treatments available today, but you can easily see what can happen without effective treatment. (thank you WG)
http://www.webmd.com/rheumatoid-arthritis/biologics-15/heart-disease-rheumatoid-arthritis
Sorry you have this, but see a theumatologist before you lose any sleep. OK? You'll get through this.
it's a chronic disease until death. as the years and decades cross by you'll hit your stride. with a four children aged 2 to 12 you are not going to have the luxury of over ruminating on your disease. You are going to get into treatment and probably hit the ground running.
buddha asked but I think you meant plaquenil? who is the doctor that prescribed this? It's a first out of the gate disease modifying anti rheumatic drug - and maybe it will affect you positively. maybe this same doctor can add in another dmard while you are waiting? also there are about 17 nsaids if you wanted to try a daily nsaid with this doctor that is not an over the counter one. did this same doctor mention methotrexate and/or pred as a bridge for pain and swelling just while waiting for next steps?
Maybe your's is proceeding at a different pace than any of us. i like to think that most of the time the sickest ones post on here - and maybe your journey will be easily handled. try not to dr. google all that much until you get to the doctor. see if you can pick up a RA book at the local library (Like you have time with 4 small kids) to get familiar with treatment terminologies. I think ocean mentioned palliatives - like pred and nsaids before you get to the rheumie if a primary would step up with that part of pre-treatment given your special logistics.
I am not going to advise you how or where to speed up this appointment. it depends on the kids and the budget I am sure. But I hope that process is moving along.
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