Key Lime is the best. Do you have Trader Joe's? They have Key Lime juice with the pie recipe.

So, does Key Lime pie made by someone from Florida count? I love Key Lime Pie...Can that be on the menu for the retreat next year, if I get to go???

Yes, but only if you apologize to American Indians. (See how I get this back on track?)

you know...poking someone and saying "you see what i did there" never makes the joke any funnier =P

I second the Key lime pie at the retreat =) I've never had it..and never really heard of it either. Sooo would we have to apologise to ALL of the indians? Would this be like a journal activity?

Stuck point essay..check
letter to myself...check
apologise to the indians....er tell me...how does this help me heal again matt???

question..

Is it offensive to call American Indians, Indians? Serious question btw..

I like how the apology includes past and present ... cause and effect.

No, "Indian" is what we call ourselves. It's actually a preferred term. Once in a while, I hear someone refer to another person as "Native," as in "is she Native?", but among ourselves we always just say "Indian." For fun, we even shorten it to NDN.

In Canada, though, we're called "First Nations."

No, "Indian" is what we call ourselves. It's actually a preferred term. Once in a while, I hear someone refer to another person as "Native," as in "is she Native?", but among ourselves we always just say "Indian." For fun, we even shorten it to NDN.

In Canada, though, we're called "First Nations."

I've never met an Indian who was sensitive about the terminology, except for terms like "Redskins" or "savages." But the only matter that people might not realize IS an offense is the question, "How much Indian are you?" Blood quantum has never been an Indian concern; it's a criteria used by the Government to exclude a maximum number of people from tribal enrollment as a way to minimize treaty obligations. There are only two races in modern history who have been required to carry identification of their ethnic heritage by their government.

Being a full-blooded Indian (like James, or my adoptive brother Tony, or my cousin Gary) is something remarkable, but anything other than that is merely "Indian" or "non-Indian," and the question "how much are you?" is similar to asking someone how much they weigh. Tribal membership is a matter of group inclusion, based on ancestry AND cultural identification/competence. Indian scholars have written hundreds of books and essays denouncing the use of blood quantum as a personal identifier. It is appropriate to refer to someone (such as myself or Bill Miller) as a "mixed-blood," but that's it...the designations are merely Full-blood, Mixed-blood, or non-Indian. :)

Do they still use savage in reference to the Indian population? That's awful and suddenly I feel very unworldly wise and naive.

The how much question..hmmn you see before you wrote that I might have asked something similar..albeit more tactfully, as a way of opening a personal history style conversation. So I can see how it might start..but once you know more about the history of the Indians and how that question connotates with blood quantum..definitely a bad and insensitive question!

Much kinder and simpler to just ask..what's your family story :)

A book I read recently by Jodi Picoult which i cannot remember the name of right now..gave me lots of information on an Indian tribe. The story was two-fold really..a woman dealing with DV and a man running away from his heritage because he never felt Indian enough..but didn't fit in with 'white' either. They collide at a pivotal moment for them both and the story really begins. I learnt quite a lot..so I hope she did her research well.

Oh yes! Quite often. Here's a photo in a nearby Oklahoma town:
http://www.touchdownfridaynight.com/images/tdfn_wynnewoodh1n1_1009.jpg

My story is that I am Ojibway on my mom's side, and it descends to her through two lineages. The Ojibways are the fourth largest tribe in North America, and are also known as Chippewa and Anishinaabe. We're mostly located in the northern woodlands and eastern plains (where we were a tipi culture centuries before the Sioux and Cheyenne ventured into the plains).

I do apologize, My Great-Grandmother was Cherokee. I grew up in the Ozarks. My Great-Grandmother's family was gone before I can remember. SO, I know little of my heraitage...I did learn some things from her before she died when I was a teenager. She called me little Fawn sometimes...I miss here dearly. She always talked of the Earth, Sky, etc...I did not know until years later, that she had been teaching me things...Had I paid better attention, maybe I could remember more.

I felt bad after I posted the Key Lime pie comment...I should have apologized first!

I'd like to savage them!

It's interesting how twilight approaches the subject...what do you think on that matter?

My story is that I am French descendant on my father's side but largely English since French petered out in the 1900s. Rather tame history to be honest not much interesting..a famous jockey and having the last Englishman to be hanged on the story board (he stole a sheep and hung as punishment). We are dotted all over the place but mainly live in the middle England area. My dad's mother alone contributed 10? children (i don't know her or my dad's family very well)

i meant 1800s..duh!

To be honest, I've deliberately avoided the entire "Twilight" fad. I'm a "Buffy" fan when it comes to vamps, and a Harry Potter fan when it comes to novels.

The book your are speaking of Hep is called the tenth circle.... At least I think that is the one. I have Cherokee Indian in me, but do not really know much about it. I do not think that my grandmother had a good experience on the reservation. I just know that she goes and visits a couple times a year, brings me back little trinkets, and does not want to talk about it other than that.