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When you fear being labelled a difficult patient
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Reposted with permission from:
http://myheartsisters.org/2012/12/09/labelled-a-difficult-patient/
When you fear being labelled a difficult patient
by Carolyn Thomas
We arrive early for our doctors appointment. We wait patiently. We sit across from the doctor, and we nod and smile politely during our visit. We pick up the prescription for our meds and then we walk out the door to make room for the next patient waiting.
And sometimes we do this even when the discussion about our health care leaves us with unspoken concerns or unanswered questions. Most patients know what this feels like, so its reassuring to learn that academics are actually studying it: our fear of being labelled a difficult patient.
Research published in the journal Health Affairs earlier this year summed this up nicely in their study abstract:*
Relatively little is known about why some patients are reluctant to engage in a collaborative discussion with physicians about their choices in health care.
In a series of six focus group sessions in the San Francisco Bay Area, we found that participants voiced a strong desire to engage in shared decision-making about treatment options with their physicians. However, several obstacles inhibit those discussions, including:
even relatively affluent and well-educated patients feel compelled to conform to socially sanctioned roles and defer to physicians during clinical consultations
physicians can be authoritarian
the fear of being categorized as difficult prevents patients from participating more fully in their own health care.
Keep in mind that the patients recruited for this study were from Palo Alto Medical Foundation physician practices, described as wealthy, highly educated people from a desirable suburb in California, generally thought to be in a position of considerable social privilege and therefore more likely than others to be able to assert themselves and as residents of Silicon Valley, they also represented one of the most wired health populations on the planet. Most participants in this study were over 50, lived in affluent areas and had either attended or completed graduate school.
Yet heres how researchers described the realities of patients like this:
Most participants in the study talked about how they actively tried to avoid challenging their physicians during office visits.
Deference to authority instead of genuine partnership appeared to be the participants mode of working.
Ive been to Palo Alto when I attended Stanford Universitys Medicine X conference a few months ago, my heart sisters, and I have to say that if these wealthy, highly educated people feel compelled to resort to deference to authority, do the rest of us dull-witted patients have a hope in hell of not doing so, too?
As Dr. Dominick Frosch, lead author of the Health Affairs report, told The New York Times:
Many physicians say they are already doing shared decision-making, but patients still arent perceiving the relationship as a partnership. People experience a different sense of self in the doctor-patient interaction. The clinical context creates a reluctance to be more assertive.
And its hard to think that people from more disadvantaged backgrounds would find it any easier to question doctors.
We are right to worry about appearing difficult to our doctors.
A number of studies, including one by Dr. Perry An reported in the Archives of Internal Medicine, have revealed that one of every six outpatient visits is described as difficult by physicians.**
Difficult encounters are more likely to occur with patients who:
have a mental disorder
present with more than five somatic symptoms
exhibit high use of health services
possess a list of complaints
have threatening and abrasive personalities
Some doctors studied reported, in fact, that they secretly hope that their challenging patients will not return, and considered these difficult encounters to be time-consuming as well as both personally and professionally unsatisfying.
Dr. J.E. Groves, in a telling study he called Taking Care of the Hateful Patient published in the New England Journal of Medicine back in 1978, described four basic types of difficult (er, hateful) patients:
1. the demander
2. the manipulator
3. the denier
4. the self-destroyer
(One wonders how Groves et al would possibly tolerate the tech-savvy medical-Googling empowered patient movement three and a half decades later?)
Does it sound disrespectful (and perhaps nave) for doctors to label a patient as difficult? Make no mistake there are indeed those people for whom difficult would be a charitably descriptive statement of fact; weve all met these types in our travels.
Note that Im not talking about the patients with mental health issues who may be emotionally or physically abusive towards their physicians.
My concern is for those of us who are generally reasonable and curious and not-difficult, the people who simply want to question our doctors (but may hesitate) or to request specific treatment options (but may hesitate) or to be taken seriously when we are feeling ill and desperate (but may lose hope of doing so) because of our own reluctance to be unfairly labelled.
According to Dr. Stephen Balt, Editor-In-Chief of The Carlat Psychiatry Report:
Doctors are people too, and it would be even more nave to think that doctors dont have their own reactions to (and opinions of) the patients they treat. Lets face it: doctors simply dont like dealing with some patients.
But I would posit that theres no such thing as a difficult patient. To be sure, some patients present with difficult problems, challenging histories, poor interpersonal skills, and needs that simply cant be met with the interventions available to the physician.
But every patient suffers in his or her own way. Doctors bring their own baggage to the interaction, too, in the form of strong opinions, personal biases, lack of knowledge, or conversely the perception that we know whats going on, when in reality we do not.
Over the past three years, Ive heard from many heart attack survivors who have shared with me horror stories of being treated as difficult patients because they challenged a doctors dismissal of their cardiac symptoms when they knew that something felt very, very wrong to them.
I was one of them. Four years ago, I asked the E.R. doctor (who had just misdiagnosed my textbook heart attack symptoms as acid reflux) about this alarming pain radiating down my left arm. This is what I was later told by his E.R. nurse in no uncertain terms (and no, I am not making this up):
Youll have to stop questioning the doctor. Hes a very good doctor, and he does not like to be questioned.
Her stern warning to me immediately left no doubt whatsoever in my mind that I was, in fact, being perceived as a difficult patient because I had the temerity to ask questions yes, even in mid-heart attack. By then, having been quite confidently misdiagnosed a few minutes earlier by a person with the letters M.D. after his name, I was already feeling embarrassed for having made such a fuss over nothing, and for wasting his very valuable time in Emerg while all those truly sick people were lined up in the waiting room.
Nobody had to tell me twice to shut up and go home.
Patients like me can be frustrating to physicians. Doctors may not be able to solve a diagnostic mystery or find a treatment option that works for this type of patient, and they may dread encountering these patients again due to that frustration.
Patients like me also walk a razor-sharp tightrope. We risk being labelled as difficult if we persist, yet we risk being dead if we dont. And we are justifiably afraid of being sent away in case something is actually very wrong.
Worse, doctors may even slap the term anxious female on the patients chart, virtually guaranteeing subsequent misdiagnoses and dismissals during future visits.
As Dr. Caroline Forrest recently reported in the September 2012 issue of the journal, Primary Health Care:
When patients are branded as difficult or demanding by health care professionals, it can in turn have a detrimental effect on the treatment a patient receives.
No wonder many of us resort to deference to authority like those nice, well-behaved Palo Alto patients like to do.
And no wonder the Palo Alto study author Dr. Frosch made this demand in The New York Times:
We urgently need support of shared decision-making that is more than just rhetoric. It may take a little longer to talk through decisions and disagreements, but if we empower patients to make informed choices, we will all do much better in the long run.
http://myheartsisters.org/2012/12/09/labelled-a-difficult-patient/
When you fear being labelled a difficult patient
by Carolyn Thomas
We arrive early for our doctors appointment. We wait patiently. We sit across from the doctor, and we nod and smile politely during our visit. We pick up the prescription for our meds and then we walk out the door to make room for the next patient waiting.
And sometimes we do this even when the discussion about our health care leaves us with unspoken concerns or unanswered questions. Most patients know what this feels like, so its reassuring to learn that academics are actually studying it: our fear of being labelled a difficult patient.
Research published in the journal Health Affairs earlier this year summed this up nicely in their study abstract:*
Relatively little is known about why some patients are reluctant to engage in a collaborative discussion with physicians about their choices in health care.
In a series of six focus group sessions in the San Francisco Bay Area, we found that participants voiced a strong desire to engage in shared decision-making about treatment options with their physicians. However, several obstacles inhibit those discussions, including:
even relatively affluent and well-educated patients feel compelled to conform to socially sanctioned roles and defer to physicians during clinical consultations
physicians can be authoritarian
the fear of being categorized as difficult prevents patients from participating more fully in their own health care.
Keep in mind that the patients recruited for this study were from Palo Alto Medical Foundation physician practices, described as wealthy, highly educated people from a desirable suburb in California, generally thought to be in a position of considerable social privilege and therefore more likely than others to be able to assert themselves and as residents of Silicon Valley, they also represented one of the most wired health populations on the planet. Most participants in this study were over 50, lived in affluent areas and had either attended or completed graduate school.
Yet heres how researchers described the realities of patients like this:
Most participants in the study talked about how they actively tried to avoid challenging their physicians during office visits.
Deference to authority instead of genuine partnership appeared to be the participants mode of working.
Ive been to Palo Alto when I attended Stanford Universitys Medicine X conference a few months ago, my heart sisters, and I have to say that if these wealthy, highly educated people feel compelled to resort to deference to authority, do the rest of us dull-witted patients have a hope in hell of not doing so, too?
As Dr. Dominick Frosch, lead author of the Health Affairs report, told The New York Times:
Many physicians say they are already doing shared decision-making, but patients still arent perceiving the relationship as a partnership. People experience a different sense of self in the doctor-patient interaction. The clinical context creates a reluctance to be more assertive.
And its hard to think that people from more disadvantaged backgrounds would find it any easier to question doctors.
We are right to worry about appearing difficult to our doctors.
A number of studies, including one by Dr. Perry An reported in the Archives of Internal Medicine, have revealed that one of every six outpatient visits is described as difficult by physicians.**
Difficult encounters are more likely to occur with patients who:
have a mental disorder
present with more than five somatic symptoms
exhibit high use of health services
possess a list of complaints
have threatening and abrasive personalities
Some doctors studied reported, in fact, that they secretly hope that their challenging patients will not return, and considered these difficult encounters to be time-consuming as well as both personally and professionally unsatisfying.
Dr. J.E. Groves, in a telling study he called Taking Care of the Hateful Patient published in the New England Journal of Medicine back in 1978, described four basic types of difficult (er, hateful) patients:
1. the demander
2. the manipulator
3. the denier
4. the self-destroyer
(One wonders how Groves et al would possibly tolerate the tech-savvy medical-Googling empowered patient movement three and a half decades later?)
Does it sound disrespectful (and perhaps nave) for doctors to label a patient as difficult? Make no mistake there are indeed those people for whom difficult would be a charitably descriptive statement of fact; weve all met these types in our travels.
Note that Im not talking about the patients with mental health issues who may be emotionally or physically abusive towards their physicians.
My concern is for those of us who are generally reasonable and curious and not-difficult, the people who simply want to question our doctors (but may hesitate) or to request specific treatment options (but may hesitate) or to be taken seriously when we are feeling ill and desperate (but may lose hope of doing so) because of our own reluctance to be unfairly labelled.
According to Dr. Stephen Balt, Editor-In-Chief of The Carlat Psychiatry Report:
Doctors are people too, and it would be even more nave to think that doctors dont have their own reactions to (and opinions of) the patients they treat. Lets face it: doctors simply dont like dealing with some patients.
But I would posit that theres no such thing as a difficult patient. To be sure, some patients present with difficult problems, challenging histories, poor interpersonal skills, and needs that simply cant be met with the interventions available to the physician.
But every patient suffers in his or her own way. Doctors bring their own baggage to the interaction, too, in the form of strong opinions, personal biases, lack of knowledge, or conversely the perception that we know whats going on, when in reality we do not.
Over the past three years, Ive heard from many heart attack survivors who have shared with me horror stories of being treated as difficult patients because they challenged a doctors dismissal of their cardiac symptoms when they knew that something felt very, very wrong to them.
I was one of them. Four years ago, I asked the E.R. doctor (who had just misdiagnosed my textbook heart attack symptoms as acid reflux) about this alarming pain radiating down my left arm. This is what I was later told by his E.R. nurse in no uncertain terms (and no, I am not making this up):
Youll have to stop questioning the doctor. Hes a very good doctor, and he does not like to be questioned.
Her stern warning to me immediately left no doubt whatsoever in my mind that I was, in fact, being perceived as a difficult patient because I had the temerity to ask questions yes, even in mid-heart attack. By then, having been quite confidently misdiagnosed a few minutes earlier by a person with the letters M.D. after his name, I was already feeling embarrassed for having made such a fuss over nothing, and for wasting his very valuable time in Emerg while all those truly sick people were lined up in the waiting room.
Nobody had to tell me twice to shut up and go home.
Patients like me can be frustrating to physicians. Doctors may not be able to solve a diagnostic mystery or find a treatment option that works for this type of patient, and they may dread encountering these patients again due to that frustration.
Patients like me also walk a razor-sharp tightrope. We risk being labelled as difficult if we persist, yet we risk being dead if we dont. And we are justifiably afraid of being sent away in case something is actually very wrong.
Worse, doctors may even slap the term anxious female on the patients chart, virtually guaranteeing subsequent misdiagnoses and dismissals during future visits.
As Dr. Caroline Forrest recently reported in the September 2012 issue of the journal, Primary Health Care:
When patients are branded as difficult or demanding by health care professionals, it can in turn have a detrimental effect on the treatment a patient receives.
No wonder many of us resort to deference to authority like those nice, well-behaved Palo Alto patients like to do.
And no wonder the Palo Alto study author Dr. Frosch made this demand in The New York Times:
We urgently need support of shared decision-making that is more than just rhetoric. It may take a little longer to talk through decisions and disagreements, but if we empower patients to make informed choices, we will all do much better in the long run.
I have always been pro-active about my health care. In doing so I have gotten through some pretty serious life threatening illnesses/diseases. So after several red flags I knew it was time to find a new doctor. I am not sure if the one I found will be a good fit yet or not. If not I will look for another one. We put so much trust into our health care providers that we need to feel comfortable in knowing our doctor will take us seriously.
When I was growing up Doctors were gods, and we were trained to do as they told us and don't ask questions. I was born in 45. I started reading used physiology text books in the early 70's and found that Doctors were pleased I took the time to learn about health issues and the body. They seemed to like me and seemed to have good conversations with me. And even enjoyed feedback from me. This relationship will my doctors remains today.
I remember in the Army they gave us our record in a locked bag, when we went from one venue to another. I started asking for my records in the mid 80's and received a lot of resistance, but I told them they were my records and I paid for them. I looked up all my tests and went to UCLA, USC, and Saint Mary's medical libraries to do the research as well a Burbank CA public Library. This of course before the internet. Now they give us our records or we can go online and get them or some HMO's will down load them on to a flash drive and give them to the patients. How thing have changed. I do admit I get anxious when my doctor asks me what I want to do.
That's great that your experience with your doctors was and remains positive; count yourself lucky.
But some of that may have to do with your gender (male, if your profile is correct). Not saying it IS gender-related but it's a definite possibility.
I, too, went to the hospital libraries during periods when I was well enough and studied, studied and studied----- pre-Internet (Not PE but Lyme and associated co-infections)
Thank goodness for the Internet now. But a person has to be very careful what and who they read.
And, yes, thank goodness for HIPAA. But it is a bit curious that I have to sign papers to get my records delivered to ME. LOL
I love it when my doctor ask me 'what do I want to do'. I usually go in there with a wish list and if I've also brought in some pubmed articles that back my 'wish' up-----he'll do it.