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Talked to suicidal woman offline
mujicaptsd
As many here know, in addition to PTSD I've got chronic kidney disease at a level near dialysis. I have only 40% of my kidney function, which means my blood to my extremities isn't oxygenated enough. So I have nerve damage in my legs and walk with a cane. It means I have to go see a neurologist every few months to keep track of how nerve damage is advancing.
Today I went to my neurologist's appointment. Before seeing him, his nurse took my blood pressure and so forth. I commented that I liked a bracelet she was wearing, and she surprised me by telling me it was in memory of her 16 year old daughter who died last December in a car wreck. Her father is a cop, and it turned out he was the first one on the scene and he had to watch her die.
As many here also know, before kidney disease got me I used to be a hospital chaplain, and now from that experience, degree, and training I teach death and dying classes to nursing students at a community college. I'll admit that that helped me cope with the shot of her telling me her horrible story so unexpectedly.
But what really helped me was this group here at DS PTSD. That's because she got very real, and told me she lost her faith over this, and she's felt suicidal. I didn't answer her as a chaplain. I told her instead that I had PTSD and belonged to this support group. I told her that here we can tell each other about suicidal thoughts and not be judged. I told her that given what we've seen here that many others in the world have not, it would be unusual if suicide never entered our minds.
It wasn't that I was encouraging her suicidal thoughts. It was just that I was accepting them, and then telling her that we here have them and tell one another and live on somehow. We never "get over it," whatever it was that happened to us, so much as we help each other live with it.
She said some people tell her it was God's will, and that it makes her angry. I told her that whether a person is a Christian or not, it helps to remember that even Jesus cried out about feeling abandoned by God when he died. You're going to feel what you feel in times of complete crisis. It's ok.
She told me that she felt rage. I said good, because Kubler Ross said anger was one of the stages of grief. It's past the stage of denial, so that's progress. I said stay angry as long as you need to, and you'll get to the next stage in due time. I told her to keep talking to people who do understand loss, too. Like people here in my DS PTSD support group.
Just thought I'd thank everybody for how DS PTSD made me able to be in that conversation today. Has th
Today I went to my neurologist's appointment. Before seeing him, his nurse took my blood pressure and so forth. I commented that I liked a bracelet she was wearing, and she surprised me by telling me it was in memory of her 16 year old daughter who died last December in a car wreck. Her father is a cop, and it turned out he was the first one on the scene and he had to watch her die.
As many here also know, before kidney disease got me I used to be a hospital chaplain, and now from that experience, degree, and training I teach death and dying classes to nursing students at a community college. I'll admit that that helped me cope with the shot of her telling me her horrible story so unexpectedly.
But what really helped me was this group here at DS PTSD. That's because she got very real, and told me she lost her faith over this, and she's felt suicidal. I didn't answer her as a chaplain. I told her instead that I had PTSD and belonged to this support group. I told her that here we can tell each other about suicidal thoughts and not be judged. I told her that given what we've seen here that many others in the world have not, it would be unusual if suicide never entered our minds.
It wasn't that I was encouraging her suicidal thoughts. It was just that I was accepting them, and then telling her that we here have them and tell one another and live on somehow. We never "get over it," whatever it was that happened to us, so much as we help each other live with it.
She said some people tell her it was God's will, and that it makes her angry. I told her that whether a person is a Christian or not, it helps to remember that even Jesus cried out about feeling abandoned by God when he died. You're going to feel what you feel in times of complete crisis. It's ok.
She told me that she felt rage. I said good, because Kubler Ross said anger was one of the stages of grief. It's past the stage of denial, so that's progress. I said stay angry as long as you need to, and you'll get to the next stage in due time. I told her to keep talking to people who do understand loss, too. Like people here in my DS PTSD support group.
Just thought I'd thank everybody for how DS PTSD made me able to be in that conversation today. Has th
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Lovely story Muji, you probably helped her more than you know
As for that happening to me. I'm probably unique. It would be a privilege. I was there (obviously) when my kids came into this world, it would be so wonderful to be there when they leave this world. To hold their hand, sit by their side, or just somehow BE there. (I held my dog as the vet helped him at the end.)
More likely, though, I'll go first. That too would be a privilege. I can literally not think of a better thing to do than to give my life for my children's.
That said. I'm a PACIFIST. Few are. I am. I don't say it lightly. I'd rather be shot, than to shot.
It's not that I want to be shot, or to see my kids shot, but I've seen the collateral damage from people who have done things that they "can't live with"...and it's not pretty.
To me, life isn't about death, but about Life. Which is why I still hold and rock my kids. Which is why the shivers that I get when I hold them are 100,000 times more NOW, then on the day that they were born.
There's a preschool children's book, The Kissing Hand, that talks of a mother raccoon sending her child off to school every night. She kisses his hand and tells him to hold it up to his face, every time he misses her, and she'll be right there with him. THAT is what I have. I have my kid's "kissing hands". If they're ever gone, I'll hold that hand up to my face...and know that they will always live in my heart. (I'm atheist...I'll never be reunited with them. And that's the way it should be. And that's why I love them while they're HERE.)
Just my two cents,
Patti
To my senses, the great magic of peer support is the in healing. It bee an awesome, far-reaching web. Receive often. Give often.
Healing hopes for all. No exceptions.
It's a strange feeling.
You have given this lady wonderful food for thought as well as validation and the kindness of a stranger
Huge hug for you... xo
After almost every talk people would come up to me wanting to either talk about themselves or someone they loved usually in regards to depression and how at odds they felt with it... I really got a lot out of it.. I'm sure more then I gave....x