Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) Support Group
Find support with others who have gone through a traumatic experience. Whether you have chronic or acute PTSD, we are here for you.
Bitterness after surviving trauma
I had a DS PTSD member ask me about how to go from trauma like ours to compassion. Hey, good question, since it's a stretch for those of us whose entire familiarity is with abuse. We tend to stick to what we know. Compassion, then's, always a work in progress for me.
The good thing is that in therapy I learned that there are tricks for turning my CPTSD symptoms to use for it. I'm a Christian, not a Buddhist, but it was useful to me to find that in Buddhism they call it tonglen, "In the practice, one visualizes taking in the suffering of oneself and of others on the in-breath, and on the out-breath giving recognition, compassion, and succor to all sentient beings.[3][4] As such it is a training in altruism." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonglen
I have CPTSD from the time I was a little kid, I don't have a before/after trauma timeline in which I can be nostalgic and return to better days for my recovery. I can only work with my PTSD symptoms. They're wired into my brain and how my all of my feelings work from constant trauma survival right through all of my years of brain growth in child development. They're all I've got.
Take my hypervigilance symptom, for instance. When I became an Emergency Room hospital chaplain at Loyola U Med Center on Chicago's south side, gunshot victim central, my hypervigilance was on full strength all the time.
I brought to it my own 6 years of childhood gun battle experience in the Tupamaro War. When I came up next to a gunshot wound patient on a gurney I was all lit up with that, but to the patient my ultra awareness was sensitivity to them. All I had to do was to overcome my hypervigilance's paranoia to let it be so.
I didn't explain it. The patient didn't need to know why I had a heightened sense of presence that stood out beyond everyone else they were meeting in the ER. That sense of presence just worked in my favor in counseling them as their chaplain right then.
Still does. Having seen so much death as a kid, when I teach death and dying classes now to nursing students, they see a sensitivity in me to the topic they don't see in other instructors. Fact is, I'm haunted by childhood ghosts, particularly of a young guy I saw get shot in the groin and bleed out in a riot just a few feet away from me when I was 11 years old. But I let them be holy ghosts in the classroom by not explaining why I'm so sensitive to the class's subject. I just let it be power to them.
Still a work in progress, I started something corny a DS PTSD member suggested to me a year ago. It's a gratitude journal. Again, my CPTSD hypervigilance is eyes in the back of my head that can tell you when anything's wrong in my surroundings. I can read a room negatively with great accuracy--negatively. I assess for threats in seconds. Problem is, I miss everything good about every room I walk into that way.
So the corny idea of a gratitude journal in which I write down one thing I'm thankful from one person per day is an exercise in hypervigilance going the other way. It goes against the grain of every childhood combat instinct I cultivated to survive, not to mention the domestic violence ones I cultivated to gauge the home front every day, and my natural mistrust of kindness because of being a two-time pedophile survivor. Being a triple trauma survivor, then, layers of cynicism package those survival instincts, too, to protect them from regular people whose optimism I envy.
I've kept that corny gratitude journal every day now for a year and a half, and the gears of it grind slowly for me but they are making a little difference, I'm finding. At my age, any difference at all is quite a find, and this one's free, not involving a psychiatrist or a medication copay. To do it daily makes me be on the hypervigilant hunt, so to speak, for something or somebody positive every day. It's part of my choice to work on going from survivor to thriver.
Today I'll write in my gratitude journal about you all, and the chance to tell you this story. Never said a gratitude journal couldn't be selfish. That's what Thich Nhat Hanh said the whole point of compassion was in the end anyway. It's self-care for ourselves as much as it's caring for the world, after all.
After psychiatrist Viktor Frankl survived Hitler's death camps and wrote Man's Search for Meaning, he said the real test for the survivor of major trauma was the bitterness after. For him that test was when he came out of the camps to found out his wife and family had been wiped out. Processing trauma to him had 3 parts:
"Frankl identifies three psychological reactions experienced by all inmates to one degree or another:
(1) shock during the initial admission phase to the camp,
(2) apathy after becoming accustomed to camp existence, in which the inmate values only that which helps himself and his friends survive, and
(3) reactions of depersonalization, moral deformity, bitterness, and disillusionment if he survives and is liberated."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man%27s_Search_for_Meaning
That third bitterness part's a bear, because we're so entitled to our bitterness by our personal trauma histories and their facts.
Muji
-
Hey All...I hope that you have a lovely, peaceful beginning of your weekI have a bunch of chores that need doing but may put them off til tomorrow and just hang out with my landlord/roomie todayWhat about you?...Anything special going on?Have a great day and take good care of you!!..Xo
-
Once again I've had a fever today. I'm not going to the hospital because that's a huge waste of time but I did schedule a dr appointment for Wednesday afternoon.

Our harsh experiences can indeed lead us to potentials we would not have discovered without the need to heal from our trauma.
After estrangement from crap family I keep reading I should volunteer, give back some how, go beyond myself I'm some way. So if what I'm reading is true then what you're saying makes perfect sense. You know what down and out feels like, that it can be a mind, body or monetary issue, so I'm not sure that the ptsd use for its compassion is strictly related to the similar things we've seen so much as when we are "lit up", it's multifaceted and makes you vulnerable, walls down and understanding...that is if you're heads not spinning like a merry-go-round of demonic characters lol. I laugh but it sucks.
Another indicator for me would be I notice I come here more often when "lit up" and get the feels a lot easier than I would feel had I not been. Hugs muji
(2) apathy after becoming accustomed to camp existence, in which the inmate values only that which helps himself and his friends survive, and
(3) reactions of depersonalization, moral deformity, bitterness, and disillusionment if he survives and is liberated."
The thing is...that those 3 also exist in millions of "HOMES" of kids in America today. While not discounting what Hitler did, it's here...right here in America.
And while there's lots of "survival", there's not so much "liberation".
(((None of us are heroes to everyone. But if each of us manage to be a hero to even just 1 or 2... to that person...you are everything.)))
I'm going to keep this TY
I think you're all amazing
I have found that I go back and forth with the anger and bitterness at times
Simple steps like the ones you are suggesting can do so much to help oneself AND you don't need to have a lot of money or therapy to practice them which suits me to a T
It took me a while not to beat myself because I couldn't just get forgiveness in one easy process ( how arrogant).... Now I accept I'm a work in progress
I think this is one of the reasons I found The Shack so empowering muji..... It's become another tool for me
Great Post!!..... Big squishy hug......xo
But I do hold to my compassion with a vengeance, obstinate because it's how I know I am not one of them, one of the inspirations for my trauma echoes.
That would be a fate worse than death~
One thing that is certain, is that I owe half my healing thus far to this site. I can ask, vent, etc., and it's safe and no one will kick me when I'm down, and so on.
Given that my dad died of pancreatic cancer, btw, I can't say he was never punished. I can't say I was bitter he didn't get any punishment. THat pain he died in? I wouldn't have wished on him no matter what, ever, even when he was beating on me one way or another. And my sister was never happy, so I think my bitterness is more that we were cheated than that we were hurt. I regret a lot more than I feel bitter about, to my abusers. To people who blew off the idea it could'e been true? Oh.... that's been an exercise in forgiveness for me. Toward them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gzMOY1AI_M
That was a help at one point in my recovery
I'm sure that there are loads of bad ideas inside people's heads causing a lot of strife. I don't know why they don't make school ALL about getting on with others without abuse.let people learn concepts once their brain is grown and it's way easier to do education
I would like to think that the number of people who actually want to be evil and act on it is small..... That the rest would change for the better if they just knew what to do and how
Am I niave?
We need more of it in the world
Why not post a compassion meditation in a post? If you have spare time like
To be able listen to you and others here talk of their trauma,& all that comes
with that I am grateful for. Corny,but true.
I isolated as a result of the trauma I went through. Totally withdrew from life.Marriage and me not having to work provided shelter and food. The marriage was ten years no children. He cheated most of those years.
But in some ways I am grateful for him because I got away from the abuse at home and a year later moved from the state I was raised in. That saved my life.
After the divorce,I struggled to make rent. I ate at the restaurant I worked at as a prep cook. That place I lived in was scary. Fights,drugs and alcohol.
I also relied on food banks. so I was grateful for them.
My family of origin came into money when my mothers brother and his whole family died in a private plane crash. He and his partner had their own business and so my mom inherited all that. they moved here in my state after the dad retired. I only saw them maybe a total of 2-4 times. since I had left home at 16. I was standing in their garage smoking a cig. (now a non smoker) and the dad that man who sexually abused me did his Look at me. That look would scare me to death. He could level me with a look. This time I glared back or felt like a glare. He broke his look and looked away. Not one word spoken by him or me. I took back a piece of me that moment. I hated them off and on for many years. grieved. resented. still do. I give myself time each year to mourn and rail against that family. They were victims too of their own parents.
When that dad died. It was over for me in a way. He never said I am sorry. I wasn't believed by family of what happened and I was branded crazy.
I don't know about forgiveness. I just know that I am grateful for where I am now. I am grateful for what I have. Breaking away from patterns learned is hard work,but good work.
Thank you for sharing. All of you
stuff plus all else including coming to an online support group. When I chose years later what church
to be ordained in, I chose the church of the author of the Serenity Prayer.
mlro, that Buddhist nun is the exact nun from whom I got that word "tonglen" up in my original post.
How did you know? :-)
Leo, thanks for saying my name and "hero" in the same sentence. It means a lot to me. Same to
you, arfie, knowing your childhood's story and then how much good you do for people here in turn, it's backed up by a lot for you to say that.
nancy, in teaching my death and dying class for nurses every semester, we come upon this recent statistic your comment about anger reminds me of. Though people have known Kubler Ross's 5 stages of grief that lead to acceptance since 1969 now, 80% of people still only work through as far as the second stage, meaning they die in anger. Rest in Peace is still just a slogan they buy on a headstone all too often, not experiencing themselves. Shame.
Cas, it's so sweet that you and your husband would be discussing our support for each other here.
Thank him for his support for you and for us, too, please.
SunCloud, I'm so glad you brought up The Shack to me. I love that. Did you know it was written by a missionary kid who was molested on the mission field like me? I'm sorry the author went through that, but it really pushed him to process his pain to elaborate a great vision in that book, didn't it?
patti, yeah, as I mentioned in my post I'm a triple trauma survivor (combat, domestic, sexual), which makes me one of those kids you describe surviving home trauma myself that you mention in America, both in my home in North America and South America.
When we moved as a missionary family into a combat zone the original domestic violence there continued. Then I was in the unique position to compare trauma from combat outside and trauma from weekly domestic violence inside.
As what could be called a test subject, then, I suppose, I can tell you from experience that surviving them both boils down to the same ordeal. Frankl's point in Man's Search for Meaning is to say the same, which is
why his logotherapy idea of writing about trauma is what we're doing here to heal and why it works so well for us regardless of our trauma's source here.
Thanks to everybody for sharing insights about this stuff. It's hard to put into words just for one's own self in one's own journal in the first place. To find in feedback the words communicated to others is a bonus, and then to get more words for the same expanding on it all with insights is a gift.
Much appreciated, y'all!