Wish you didn't feel so low, wish I could find a magic solution. Soft supportive vibes and healing hopes to you....

So sorry life feels so hopeless and it doesn't inspire any faith to go forward. Believe it or not, hospital chaplain or no, I have been there, too. It turned out to help with patients in the hospital, because I met some who were there and it was a place I recognized from personal experience.

Since that's the case with me, I don't argue with anyone who is in that place about faith or hope or God or prayer or any of those things. All I can say it that I got through that place somehow. I wish I knew exactly how, because I would relieve your suffering with instructions.

But I really don't even know how I got through, Cecil. I just did. There's nothing that special about me. so I think if I could get through it somehow, you can, too. I just wish I could prove it by telling you exactly how. But I can't. I just hung in there and it happened.

I'm sorry I can't be a better friend than that. I really know how you feel. You've done a lot of good for me and other people with your support you've given here. Much support to you now.

Muji

It is hard to watch a daughter screw up her life... when mine was doing that I wanted to curl up and give up - oddly enough she was one of my greatest proponents of keeping moving.

Hugs.

Hang on, push through just ten minutes at a time.

yadlim

Yes, as Yadlim says, please just keep going. The reason you feel so particularly awful - or one big reason - is that you are voluntarily opening up the deepest wounds you have. You are making a voluntary descent into hell, to retrieve your soul. It's not a random occurrence, it's a meaningful choice. That makes a difference. I do know how you feel. I burst out crying and say "I don't want to do this anymore!" But let's not give up, okay? I believe in what you are doing, and I hope and pray that your courage and healing will inspire the same in your daughter one day.

I am sorry you are feeling this way. Even if it doesn't seem like it now, it will get better. Sending you positive thoughts.

Am I allowed to mutilate a Lord Tennyson quote? Those royal dudes are so stuffy that I feel it is necessary to make them comprehensible. Here goes:

There is more Faith in an honest doubt than in all the scripture ever written.

No, Cecil, we don't get to go back, but we do get to go on to new potentials and growth. I know for sure you are a help to folks here. Can we be by your side while you sort through the honest doubts?

You are not alone, Cecil.

Sorry you're feeling bad.

You've been a lot of help to me. I like you lots. :)

I hope this passes soon.

Ceci, going back in any case is never good, since the variables may hust make things worse. But going forward even in a renewed path, but with the knowledge that it's usually the free will factor that is the obstruction, will help. I see many that pray for miracles, but the answers to those are seldom and never what we expect.
I prayed for john to be out of the pain of cancer...well he is. Just not with me anymore. We were given the abilities as species that allow us to take choice waigh them then decide whether they are right for us. The only answers we don't get are for the questions we don't .
Where your daughter is concerned some things she will only learn by experience, not because the info of the results of the choices has not been shared. But at her age it's completely normal for her ego to say," but I am different" The only thing to do is to let her learn, because if you try to "protect" her she will just dig in deeper.
Hugs of understanding and support.. My daughter is just now getting an idea of how much she hurt me and our relationship, at 36. Being a parent of her own(18 year old) has opened her eyes.