Polymyositis & Dermatomyositis Support Group
Polymyositis (PM) is a type of chronic inflammation of the muscles (inflammatory myopathy) related to dermatomyositis and inclusion body myositis. The inflammation is predominantly of the endomysium in polymyositis, whereas dermatomyositis is characterized by primarily perimysial inflammation.
Prednisone effects on antibody testing?
romeomustdie
Hi everyone.
I was recently seen by a very well known medical center to evaluate my treatment plan for lupus and dermatomyositis, and now I'm completely confused.
Briefly, I had a negative/low titer ANA for many years and was told 'nothing' was wrong. After many frustrating visits with my rheumatologist, he finally agreed to run further testing. It came back showing a positive anti-Smith antibody, a positive Mi-2 antibody, and positive antiphospholipid antibodies. Finally, I had an answer to my years of suffering with SOMETHING not being right with me. I was diagnosed with systemic lupus and dermatomyositis.
After a year and a half of being on prednisone with very little, if any, improvement, my primary care sent me for a second opinion to a very highly regarded medical center. She was also concerned as multiple urine tests performed had gone from no protein to trace protein to 1+ protein during this time frame.
Well, the doctor listened to my symptoms and did a thorough examination. She then re-ran most, if not all, of the blood work I had had done.
I am shocked ... but she told me a week later that everything came back NEGATIVE.
EVERYTHING.
How could this be? I had the antibody tests run by a very reputable lab. I had MULTIPLE urine specimens over the past year (at least 6 or 7) showing the protein. Even the antiphospholipid antibodies came back as (high) normal.
By any chance, could being on prednisone have ANY effect on these results??? I can believe one test maybe being different, but we are talking multiple tests from multiple laboratories that were positive ... are now negative.
Can anyone help me understand this?
I'm crying ... because I feel I'm back to square one yet again.
"NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOU."
I honestly can't even get this 2nd opinion physician to return my call.
I was recently seen by a very well known medical center to evaluate my treatment plan for lupus and dermatomyositis, and now I'm completely confused.
Briefly, I had a negative/low titer ANA for many years and was told 'nothing' was wrong. After many frustrating visits with my rheumatologist, he finally agreed to run further testing. It came back showing a positive anti-Smith antibody, a positive Mi-2 antibody, and positive antiphospholipid antibodies. Finally, I had an answer to my years of suffering with SOMETHING not being right with me. I was diagnosed with systemic lupus and dermatomyositis.
After a year and a half of being on prednisone with very little, if any, improvement, my primary care sent me for a second opinion to a very highly regarded medical center. She was also concerned as multiple urine tests performed had gone from no protein to trace protein to 1+ protein during this time frame.
Well, the doctor listened to my symptoms and did a thorough examination. She then re-ran most, if not all, of the blood work I had had done.
I am shocked ... but she told me a week later that everything came back NEGATIVE.
EVERYTHING.
How could this be? I had the antibody tests run by a very reputable lab. I had MULTIPLE urine specimens over the past year (at least 6 or 7) showing the protein. Even the antiphospholipid antibodies came back as (high) normal.
By any chance, could being on prednisone have ANY effect on these results??? I can believe one test maybe being different, but we are talking multiple tests from multiple laboratories that were positive ... are now negative.
Can anyone help me understand this?
I'm crying ... because I feel I'm back to square one yet again.
"NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOU."
I honestly can't even get this 2nd opinion physician to return my call.
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