Physical & Emotional Abuse Support Group
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Help. Constant self- blame. Was this abuse?
bellehandle
It's been a while since I've posted, and I'm going to try to make this as concise without deconstructing the whole year of our commited relationship, and six other years of on and off. I ended what I think, and am trying to convince myself, was an extremely toxic and abusive relationship four months ago. It was a brutal ending, as I initiated it, and he followed through with it. Then, the next 24 hours I spent trying to get back together with him and take back my initiating part of the break up. He was very insensitive and dumped my things on me, screaming at me that I always fucked shit up and that he needed to go to the club with his friends- an hour after we broke up via phone. When I was stuck in traffic trying to get to him to talk it out, I was hysterically crying and pleading with him to listen, and he became angry and told me how I can never do anything right. I was DEADLOCKED in traffic. It wasn't my fault, yet it was to him. Finally, when I knew he wouldn't get back together with me, I combusted after a year of his hurtful comments, and said some really awful things to him. I regret now saying what I said in the immediate post-breakup, because I looked crazy and just had insane word-vomit, calling him a shitty person and that I was going to find someone better. I probably sent him three long messages in a row, telling him I would block his number, and then would call him the next day anyway, only to send one more angry message telling him why he was a bad person and abusive to me, and saying I would never speak to him again and I'll find better. This was only in the immediate day after the break-up. Please, I don't want any negative comments about how I shouldn't have said what I said to him and it was bad on my part. I know it was, and I beat myself up every day of my life for looking crazy and leaving that horrible, psychotic ex-girlfriend impression on him as his last image of me. I cry about it and blame myself for not leaving the relationship more gracefully- why couldn't I just have said "see you later, karma will find you" instead of sending him messages on messages begging for him back, and then when he didn't respond, telling him he was a horrible boyfriend anyway and I would do better. Even though this was ONLY in the immediate 24 hours, the things I said were harsh, and in my opinion, made me look like a scorned CRAZY lover to him, it was my way of processing everything. For one year I had tolerated being called names, insulted, exploited, and finally when I felt him discarding me- not even willing to acknowledge me in the FIRST 24 hours after our breakup, I said all the hurtful things I could, because I felt as though he was throwing me out like trash and getting off scott-free without ever acknowledging how poorly he treated me. I could go on and on about the actual breakup- but that's the tip of the iceburg. Basically, I initiated it, he followed through, I regretted, and when he literally threw my shit on the curb and told me he was going to the club and that he wanted to "see who else was out there"- and literally did not give me the opportunity to talk or gain any closure for longer than 30 minutes on the day of the split, I went crazy. It was evidently a discarding mechanism for him so he didn't have to deal with it.
The actual relationship I am struggling with. Since the breakup, everyone in my life has told me it was the best decision and that he was horrible to me. Still, because I didn't go down gracefully, and I lack self-esteem, perhaps as a result of the relationship, I am constantly struggling with feelings of blame and self guilt. I feel like it's my fault he treated me this way- and that he never did anything wrong. At times, I cannot acknowledge it was abusive, and convince myself into thinking that I deserved this treatment and that nothing he did was inappropriate or abusive. The label of "emotional abuse" is one I am trying to understand and it's such inner turmoil, because knowing that it was indeed abusive is what will help to give me self-validation and move forward. I'm still convincing myself I was the problem and asked for it.
In the beginning, he was more consistently sweet and doting, though he never spent much money on me ever and seemed to be a bit reserved like that, which was fine. I, however, loaned him my car, allowed him to do laundry at my apartment (sometimes doing it for him), paid often and was mindful to split the check sometimes and bought him things I knew he needed since he was trying to save and be money-conscious. During the entire relationship, we had WONDERFUL, beautiful times- moments which reflected normalcy, and he would have days when he looked, acted, and seemed like a perfect, respectful boyfriend. He would dote, treat me, and I would be so happy and lucky to have him. These days dwindled down towards the end, and then he would have days where I wouldn't hear from him all day, scared to initiate contact for seeming needy, but then bringing the topic of communicating more delicately, only to be chastised for not understanding his busy life and how much harder he worked than me, I was told I was selfish. Through time I convinced myself I was needy and selfish for wanting to speak more than once a day via one short text- I felt pushed off and discarded, but then the next day he would turn around and want me ALL day texting constantly. It was such a mindfuck. I couldn't figure out if I was in fact being needy on some days, or if he was emotionally withholding. Often times, he would tell me on his "cold days" that he had to fake conversations with me and didn't want to talk to me every day. I was his COMMITTED girlfriend at that point. I did EVERYTHING for him, because I wanted him to know I acknowledged how hard he worked and how much he was trying to improve his life, I wanted to make it easier for him. Him blowing "hot and cold" was one factor of this mindfucked relationship.
The other didn't come out as often as the sporadic silent treatment, but definetly occured multiple times (and became pretty consistent when he drank). On my birthday, he got drunk, saw me talking to a guy I knew, and was offended when I didn't introduce him the SECOND he approached us. He stormed off into the night, punched through two car windows, leaving me in the middle of the city alone. I got to my apartment and he showed up later, went into a meltdown and called me a "slut, cunt, whore, that i was going to fuck a ton of guys. I did nothing with my life, I was paid for by daddy, I didn't have the same work ethic as him, to shut the fuck up." He ripped a painting of my wall, and flipped my coffee table. I cried and cried and asked him why. The next second, he would cry and beg for forgiveness, telling me he loved me.
Another time, he made a comment in front of me about a girl who was with us having a "sexy body". I calmly told him it was disrespectful to say those things in front of me, and he then flipped it, accusing me of giving other guys "pretty eyes", when another guy offered to by me a drink and I respectfully declined. He flew into a tirade again, flipped a trash can in public, got home, accused me of having slutty friends and that when he left me I would "fuck every guy I knew" and went into the "cunt, slut, you don't work as hard as me" rant. He threw a chair off of my apartment building's roof deck. The next morning he apologized telling me he wasn't going to drink like that and he knew it was bad behavior, and I chalked it up to an isolated "alcohol and word vomit problem", leading myself into denial that it was verbal abusive. Even now I have a hard time acknowledging it was because it was infrequent and only a handful of times when he drank.
However, leading up to our breakup we were in public dining and he told me "fuck you", when I told him that "my job was important too" after he went on a talking spree about how important his new job was and that mine wasn't as hard.
All this being said, there are countless other times I could write about. What I need help from you all is acknowledging whether or not this qualifies as emotionally abusive and dangerous? I am in a cloud of constantly telling myself it was normal, that I was the bad one, I'm exaggerating it, and that I'm guilty of losing a good thing. I'm losing my mind ruminating over this. It's been four months and we have no contact- he probably wouldn't respond even if I tried. I just am still devastated and can't stop self- blame.
The actual relationship I am struggling with. Since the breakup, everyone in my life has told me it was the best decision and that he was horrible to me. Still, because I didn't go down gracefully, and I lack self-esteem, perhaps as a result of the relationship, I am constantly struggling with feelings of blame and self guilt. I feel like it's my fault he treated me this way- and that he never did anything wrong. At times, I cannot acknowledge it was abusive, and convince myself into thinking that I deserved this treatment and that nothing he did was inappropriate or abusive. The label of "emotional abuse" is one I am trying to understand and it's such inner turmoil, because knowing that it was indeed abusive is what will help to give me self-validation and move forward. I'm still convincing myself I was the problem and asked for it.
In the beginning, he was more consistently sweet and doting, though he never spent much money on me ever and seemed to be a bit reserved like that, which was fine. I, however, loaned him my car, allowed him to do laundry at my apartment (sometimes doing it for him), paid often and was mindful to split the check sometimes and bought him things I knew he needed since he was trying to save and be money-conscious. During the entire relationship, we had WONDERFUL, beautiful times- moments which reflected normalcy, and he would have days when he looked, acted, and seemed like a perfect, respectful boyfriend. He would dote, treat me, and I would be so happy and lucky to have him. These days dwindled down towards the end, and then he would have days where I wouldn't hear from him all day, scared to initiate contact for seeming needy, but then bringing the topic of communicating more delicately, only to be chastised for not understanding his busy life and how much harder he worked than me, I was told I was selfish. Through time I convinced myself I was needy and selfish for wanting to speak more than once a day via one short text- I felt pushed off and discarded, but then the next day he would turn around and want me ALL day texting constantly. It was such a mindfuck. I couldn't figure out if I was in fact being needy on some days, or if he was emotionally withholding. Often times, he would tell me on his "cold days" that he had to fake conversations with me and didn't want to talk to me every day. I was his COMMITTED girlfriend at that point. I did EVERYTHING for him, because I wanted him to know I acknowledged how hard he worked and how much he was trying to improve his life, I wanted to make it easier for him. Him blowing "hot and cold" was one factor of this mindfucked relationship.
The other didn't come out as often as the sporadic silent treatment, but definetly occured multiple times (and became pretty consistent when he drank). On my birthday, he got drunk, saw me talking to a guy I knew, and was offended when I didn't introduce him the SECOND he approached us. He stormed off into the night, punched through two car windows, leaving me in the middle of the city alone. I got to my apartment and he showed up later, went into a meltdown and called me a "slut, cunt, whore, that i was going to fuck a ton of guys. I did nothing with my life, I was paid for by daddy, I didn't have the same work ethic as him, to shut the fuck up." He ripped a painting of my wall, and flipped my coffee table. I cried and cried and asked him why. The next second, he would cry and beg for forgiveness, telling me he loved me.
Another time, he made a comment in front of me about a girl who was with us having a "sexy body". I calmly told him it was disrespectful to say those things in front of me, and he then flipped it, accusing me of giving other guys "pretty eyes", when another guy offered to by me a drink and I respectfully declined. He flew into a tirade again, flipped a trash can in public, got home, accused me of having slutty friends and that when he left me I would "fuck every guy I knew" and went into the "cunt, slut, you don't work as hard as me" rant. He threw a chair off of my apartment building's roof deck. The next morning he apologized telling me he wasn't going to drink like that and he knew it was bad behavior, and I chalked it up to an isolated "alcohol and word vomit problem", leading myself into denial that it was verbal abusive. Even now I have a hard time acknowledging it was because it was infrequent and only a handful of times when he drank.
However, leading up to our breakup we were in public dining and he told me "fuck you", when I told him that "my job was important too" after he went on a talking spree about how important his new job was and that mine wasn't as hard.
All this being said, there are countless other times I could write about. What I need help from you all is acknowledging whether or not this qualifies as emotionally abusive and dangerous? I am in a cloud of constantly telling myself it was normal, that I was the bad one, I'm exaggerating it, and that I'm guilty of losing a good thing. I'm losing my mind ruminating over this. It's been four months and we have no contact- he probably wouldn't respond even if I tried. I just am still devastated and can't stop self- blame.
I don't care if you did sleep with this guy or that guy, his actions are wrong. It doesn't matter, all he should do at that point is say, Ok if your going to do that I'm leaving the relationship. and leave and be gone. You don't act like that with someone he's trying to get control.
I can only assume that you are lashing out because you have had enough, that's understandable. But really why would you want a man who has to go to a club right after you guys start arguing. It's stupid, he's immature, and apparently has to grow up.
Stay strong and let him go. That is all the way around abusive and I can't stress that enough. Take care of you. (((hugs))))
You were abused.
Here:
(800) 701-0456
is the number for
resources in your state.
They will help comfirm
for you that what you
endured in that
relationship, was abuse.
They may also have
counselors who can
both, help you recover
and then be able to see
the signs before before
you get too involved in
a similar situation.
Please give them a call.
Also, I hope you'll practice
self-care. That's another
really great strategy to
feel good and be less
likely to find yourself
in another relationship
like the last one.
Please take very good care.
Sending you hugs
and wishes for
better things.
Practice selfacre
Hugs
I was short on time and
read your thread very
quickly. I reread it
again just now and
saw in the last paragraph
that you ask if what you
described is abusive,
and also, is it dangerous.
I've already said that
what you've described
is abusive. And. . . YES.
What you've described
is also DANGEROUS.
While, so far, the target
of his violence has been
perpetrated on inanimate
objects. There's an actual
name for this. It's called
"symbolic violence."
There's on basic message
to be read from someone
breaking things. The message is:
The next time you piss me off,
what I'll break will be YOU.
So. . . . no. . . . his behavior
isn't "normal." Normal people,
even when angry, don't punch
out car windows.
Yes. He represented a
threat of danger to you.
One indicator of this
was his jealousy.
The second, was
his symbolic violence.
It's really good you're
out of that relationship.
But I stand by my earlier
suggestion that you call
the number I included
and get some counseling.
It really will help you,
going forward.
Please take good care.
A lot of your story reminds me of my own, even the ending of the relationship. With time, it won't matter what your ex thinks about how you reacted. He didn't have the capacity for empathy to understand how you were struggling, and he's not going to magically learn how to care for others now that you're gone. You, however, have the capacity of true regret and the insight into your missteps. That shows you do have the ability and desire to change.
You wanted him to care for you the way you cared for him, and he led you on to think he could. You had enough of him acting like he was the only one that mattered in the relationship (NO ONE is any more important than anyone else in this world, I don't care if you're the President) and you tried to take him down a notch. You subconsciously may have wanted him to feel how you were feeling, so that maybe he'd understand how hard it's been for you to take his abuse. But you didn't get the outcome you'd expect from someone that respects others.
The realization that came with discovering my relationship was psychologically/emotionally abusive was like a slap in the face. It was like I had spent all this time believing a lie while I was in it. But the truth is, it wasn't a lie. You were completely real and very much in it. You're so much more enriched than your abuser because you have the ability to be happy with what you have, and all you require in return is respect and love, two things many more people are very capable of providing when you're ready.
Please learn to forgive yourself. I don't know how to explain how that worked for me, as some days I still fail at it, but one day it just happened. It took a lot of reminding myself that I was trying to emotionally survive the relationship, that it's reasonable to want to maintain a healthy amount of control over the direction my life and relationships are going (the difference is you're not trying to control another person), and that my own poor reactions were because I was terrified. People that have the ability to care for others do not want to terrify those they care about. Throwing things, punching windows, saying nasty things, those are all incredibly scary things to witness.
I know it would feel amazing if my abuser could some day come around and give a REAL apology that he felt from his heart. But the truth is, he can't. That's one of the many reasons why maintaining No Contact is so important. Because ultimately he's going to let you down, and he's going to do as much damage as you'll put up with in the process. They play by a different set of rules than the rest of us.
There are many people out there that understand emotional and mental abuse is a real thing. It's difficult for some people to identify it unless they've experienced it. With how you're feeling, after recognizing the very real and very scary things your ex did, that's a huge indicator that you were abused.
Thank you for writing this. Reading your words helped put my own situation into perspective today. It's like that saying, imagine a friend was telling you their story, what advice would you give them? That's why these boards are helpful to me, maybe that's why they're helpful to a lot of us, because I find it helpful to identify with others during such a confusing time. It helps me know I'm not crazy. ;D