Hello! I'm a new member who just discovered this site and am so happy that it exists because I really need some help in coping with an episode of estrangement that began a few years ago when two of my three adult children joined together in cutting-off ties with me. They are both boys. They tried to get my adult daughter, their sister to join them in this, but she refused and now they are distancing from her, as well. As far as I can tell, it has to do with a financial boundary I set with my younger son and his wife but they don't acknowledge this. It breaks my heart, but I'm responding by simply giving them their space. The older son is initiating some general communication via text but not about the estrangment but rather about geopolitical topics. I'm divorced and had to deal with their father undermining me to them toward the end of the marriage and afterwards. I'm guessing that his new wife and my daughter-in-law might be encouraging this estrangement. When my younger son got married, I paid for a lot of things they dropped hints about needing and wanting. I stopped this when the daughter-in-law escalated the wants and needs and began giving me the silent treatment if I didn't immediately come forward with the money. My son earns enough now that they really no longer need my help financially but he might trying to stay out of debt and limit her spending.
Welcome to this forum, Mago845. Your story is very typical of what many estranged parents experience. We give and give and even enable them and then when we stop, WE are the bad guys and pariahs. There are many books about estrangement and some fit one situation and others fit another. Some promote the amends letter but I like to caution parents to think about this and be careful. Some parents end up apologizing for things they didn’t do wrong and the apology is never accepted or enough. It’s embarrassing at times to have such nasty adult children that we loved and cared for, and did too much go so where is the gratitude. I like to recommend Done with the Crying and do the exercises at the end of each chapter. The follow up book is Beyond Done with the Crying (second is better written so try to slug through the first one first). Joshua Coleman has several books but they didn’t fit my abusive and demanding EC situation. We’ve also found that giving money is demanded by our EC, estranged children. If we give, they are happy. But it’s to pay for their unhealthy or dysfunctional lifestyle so we are really enabling in our situation. Many parents find the EC come back in contact and act all nice only to give the big ask. When we say no again, their blame and anger flairs back up and parents get cut off again. It’s an unhealthy dance. And the silent treatment is really a manipulative and control technique. Anyway, welcome again and I encourage people to respond to other posts and read back past posts. This forum has gotten a bit slow lately but at times is lively.
Hi Mago, I've heard to statement, "You are only as happy as your least happy child," and I am trying to move forward, but there is a hole in my heart with the estrangement.
A Ted talk I saw cited that too many parents feel guilty for their children's poor behavior, but there is research that shows that much of behavior has nothing to do with the parents, and is really who that child chooses to be. Still, it's so hard to accept. We gave our everything, sacrificed so much, and the estrangement feels like a big FXXX you. So much pain. But, perhaps we can learn to see that it is actually their choice for whatever reasons (insecurity, anger, hurt, personal gain in some other way, lack of empathy, etc.) that have nothing to do with US, and all to do with who they really are at this time. At least we can still have hope that one day, they will come back around.
I think when a son marries, it can be the new wife and her family that manipulate the actions of the EC in some ways. This is especially true if the EC is the gullible type.
Freshstart, I heard that statement said another way.
"Don't let the unhappiness of your unhappiest child ruin your own happiness (life)." I like that version better. We can not let the unhappiness of another person hold us in emotional prison.
Bonbon and Godawful, for me its a SIL that only wants his family included in the relative list. His dad is a rip roaring alcoholic yet that is "better" than those of us who life functional lives. It is often called enmeshment.
Welll you cannot control them when they have a wife no more,take a step back and make yourself happy that is all that really matters dear,your happiness is key.
A Ted talk I saw cited that too many parents feel guilty for their children's poor behavior, but there is research that shows that much of behavior has nothing to do with the parents, and is really who that child chooses to be. Still, it's so hard to accept. We gave our everything, sacrificed so much, and the estrangement feels like a big FXXX you. So much pain. But, perhaps we can learn to see that it is actually their choice for whatever reasons (insecurity, anger, hurt, personal gain in some other way, lack of empathy, etc.) that have nothing to do with US, and all to do with who they really are at this time. At least we can still have hope that one day, they will come back around.
"Don't let the unhappiness of your unhappiest child ruin your own happiness (life)." I like that version better. We can not let the unhappiness of another person hold us in emotional prison.
Bonbon and Godawful, for me its a SIL that only wants his family included in the relative list. His dad is a rip roaring alcoholic yet that is "better" than those of us who life functional lives. It is often called enmeshment.