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A quote from one of our happy Over The Fence members: "Hi JS- Thank you for the welcome message. Do you remember that show Home Improvement and the neighbor Wilson Wilson Jr. who would meet Tim the Tool Man at the fence, but never showed anything but his eyes? He was so funny. This group reminds me of those encounters... you get the wisdom, humor, and support from your DS...

Who says they walk? Perhaps they are actually floating not walking, in which case they aren't really being supported by anything, just hovering slightly above.
In all seriousness, I have legitimately had a direct encounter with a ghost (a union soldier by the looks of his uniform, and he sported a very full brown mustache and about my height so about 5'6" - 5'7"...I saw him just long enough to get a decent look at him before he went poof and disappeared on me) but I never got a look at his feet. Can't say he was actually "walking" if I can't say he had feet to walk with. That all probably makes me sound a bit cuckoo but whatever. Anyway, hope that all "helps" you sort that question out a bit there, foxysdad!
I’m not sure if this is meant to be a serious question but I will take a couple minutes and see if I can help. First, you are assuming that ghosts have mass. If they did have weight then its logical to think they would be affected by gravity and should sink (gravity). But honestly, if they had mass we could weigh them, touch them, and feel them. We could even trap one and science would have no problem proving their existence. I will admit that they do seem to have mass at times, but lets consider this a moment. Not too many years ago the knowing doctors bled George Washington to death trying to get rid of the bad blood making him sick. They couldn’t see germs or virus’ and science had no way of proving or disproving exactly what made him sick. In fact, bleeding was the science of the day. Some people thought their might be germs even if it couldn’t be proved, after all why fling a dead cow over the castle wall if you didn’t expect it to make people sick and possibly die? Years later the microscope was invented and a whole new world opened to doctors and science. At last they could see some of what made us sick as well as see what caused the germs to die. My point is that just because science cant prove there is a ghost doesn’t mean it does not exist, only that you have no way to measure it. Maybe a few years from now science will invent a meter to allow you to see a ghost when its present. Hey, maybe they will invent a Bone-A-Phone and you can call your dearly departed loved ones and chat. In the mean time, if you are serious, why not visit Gettysburg or rent a room in a haunted hotel? Use your own five senses and maybe you will have something happen you just cant explain. Remember that science doesn’t believe any thing until they can prove it, not even thousands upon thousands of eye witness testimonies can influence their opinion. And if you think science is always right…. wasn’t it just yesterday Pluto was a planet?
Here is a link: http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/ghosts
I have been a member there of the ghost's group since November of 2011. I have had brushes with ghostly spirits throughout my life. I currently live with one.. But, for me, it is a comforting feeling. I even miss the feeling I get when the presence isn't felt for days at a time..
I have only been able to communicate through electronics like lights turning on & off interactively, objects being moved, and the phone ringing with no answer.. that type of thing. My daughter who seems to be more "in tune" than I , has seen things like "a shadow going into the bedroom doorway" and seeing things move or hearing sounds I can't hear also though I am in the room.
I smell something that smells like strongly fragrant "rotten oranges" when I also felt its presence mostly in the living room. I acknowledge its presence but there has been nothing demonstrative to date... It likes to sit on the bed & leaves an impression there no matter how many times I smooth it off.. by the time I get to the doorway & turn around - the top of the bedspread is rumpled again with the depression of something resting there.
If you have any related stories or have an answer or theory about Foxysdad's question - Please Reply here...
HUGS
NDY
After my Dad's cousin passed away due to a brain tumor (he was a 9/11 first responder fire fighter) I was smelling wood burning from time to time and then would get a terribly sick feeling thoughout my body...also saw a shadowy figure in the house that resembled my dad but wasn't him obviously since he's alive. Around that same time, there was an incident when my dad had walked outside and closed the slider door (which only can lock from the inside) and the door locked behind him even though no one was around to have locked it). All that stopped once my dad came to terms with his cousin's passing, oddly enough.
I've had a few dream related encounters with relatives...both of my mom's parents, which is odd because I never even met her father since he died when she was 11, but he came to me once and I knew who he was immediately. I've also felt a near constant presence on my left side and many times there's a cold that seems to be trying to hold my left hand - even when the house is hot this sometimes happens. That's all off topic from foxysdad's initial question though...so that's all for another thread I guess...
This is only one solid example I have from experiencing ghosts, spirits, etc.
HUGS
NDY
So I said OK & continued on to reply to that classmate...
Then just as i about finished that.. The whirlgig appeared again & all of my youtubes that were tabbed up ( about ten) came on at once and then this tab that I tapped into several hours ago came on ... (Go there if you dare) talking about death...
http://www.youtube.com/user/mhfm1?v=efiJauhz664&feature=pyv&ad=7553385272&kw=catholic
I am on a sticky note now & intend to tyoe EVERYTHING connected with this topic separately.. and am going to move it copy/paste from now on dealing with this topic..
When I tabbed into this site to copy/paste the address for you.. the madness stopped...
But the link to OTFN & THIS topic has totally disappeared from my tabs !!!
I am going back to finish my classmates reply... Then I will rewrite my past experiences witht he supernatural - bad & good.. On a sticky note & I WILL BE BACK !!
CREEPY !!!
NDY
I'm a firm believer in spirits and ghosts and angels and believe they are all different things. My theory is that spirits are people that have passed who come and go whereas ghosts are people who passed who are stuck here because they maybe haven't come to terms with their death or have something unresolved that holds them here and angels were probably never here in human form but keep tabs on us from beyond.
When my grandmother (my dad's mom) was in the last stages of her pancreatic cancer and we were figuring it was only a matter of days, in the few lucid moments she had in the end there, she kept talking about seeing one of her brothers and her sister (both of whom had passed on before her) and how they were going to come back to pick her up soon.
My mom had a reiki healing session done by a friend of hers during the time that my other grandmother, her mom, had been in a coma following a stroke and during the session her friend said that my grandmother was "waiting for George". We had at the time interpretted that as being about my uncle, my mom's brother, who's name is George. He was in a rather unsettled time in his life so it seemed to fit that she wasn't going to pass until she felt he was okay, or something like that. Well...when the time came that she did pass my uncle wasn't exactly any more settled but as it has it, that morning when my parents went to the nursing home to take care of whatever needed to be done to get arrangements made, my mom noticed up on the board at the nurses station a note that one of the nurses just had a baby boy named George in the time frame when my grandmother had passed. Freaky coincidence or something more I don't know.
Even more freaky, as I've been writing this, there is a cold spot developing on my left again touching my shoulder and my hand...and again, the house is not cold and my right side's fine. Things that make you go hmm...
I never believed in feelings because I learned in psychology class we often both see and feel what we expect to see or feel. I could explain this but maybe later if some one is interested. But on one occasion, when I visited New Echota (the Capitol of the Cherokee Nation in GA) I was siezed with an uncontrollable feeling of sorrow and pain. I was there with friends and had to go sit in the car and just cried and cried. Later I learned that was where the Trail of Tears started. New Echota with its wooden houses, barns, and farms was the Cherokee's attempt to appease the white man. They never understood the white man would never be happy with any thing they did, he wanted their land. The pain I felt was that of a grief stricken people being forced from their homes and their lands.... well you know the rest. But my belief that science held all of the answers was badly shaken that day.
I understand how psychologists would want to attempt to explain away why it is that some people experience things that not everyone is able to tap into. I get the thought about being able to see and feel what you expect to see and feel but you could also suggest that those who are able to see and feel those things expect it because they are more open to it in the first place. My mom and brother are both more open than my dad so it's no suprise that they have both had similar experiences to what I have had whereas he still is skeptical even after he was mysteriously locked out of the house after his cousin died. Some people are just more accepting that they can connect on a deeper level to that which cannot be proven.
I never want to back even close to that realm again... I have "chosen sides" & walk with the Holy Spirit now where I can experience joy & freedom once more... Let me tell you just a small part of my story... It is nothing compared to wag952's relatives ( Thank God ! Though it could have been worse! ) Perhaps I will tell more at a later date...
When I was very young ( 6 yrs ) & lived on the farm, my older brother learned how to "knock things over" with just thinking about it ! He would sit one of my mom's filtered cigarettes on end and focus on it until it fell over! So, when we moved to the city, for something to do... We would lay on the floor and send thoughts back & forth and thought nothing of it ! ( age 11 & up ) My brother was 5 yrs older than me & much further advanced in telepathy.
When I was 15, I had a brief encounter with astral projection... I had read a paperback book about it... I laid down on my bed & followed the instructions... Suddenly, I was hovering over my body, looking downward at my body laying on the bed below me ! I was connected to it by a silver ! I thought, "Holy Toledo !!" It scared me SO bad that I was immediately back into my body...!! I never tried it again bec I was always afraid I woUld never get back into my body. 2 Since then, I have always wondered about how many people lie in comas that are really experiencing astral projection ?!!
Once, I participated in the use of a Ouiji Baord... Never again! That was SO scary as it predicted my girlfirend's boyfriend to have a car accident even naming the town and the part of the highway underpass where it would happened.. Bec he was "warned- off" He narrowly avoided a head on collision wiht a truck ! I was not pushing that thing & it was flyin all over the place ( I had been warned by many a God-fearing person about "dabbling" but never took it seriously until much later on ..)
Eventually, I got into numerology & even got married on 3/30/69 at 3:30PM BEC "3” was my lucky number !! ( It lasted 18 yrs ! )
Telepathy was ruining my life... I could no longer enjoy playing card games as I knew what people had in their hands & what the “luck of the draw” was going to be ! The spontaneity had gone out of my life! Often, there would be a knock at my front door but no one would be there until a few minutes later when one of my friends would drop by ! The phone would ring & I would automatically “know” who it was more often than not.. Then it started getting really creepy bec I cold get people to turn & look at me just by wishing that they would.. All during these times, I could feel the presence of spirits... ( More than likely, evil spirits, leading me further into mind control !)
After we had married, our first home was an old mining house in an older section of a well-to-do area. It sat off of the road at the edge of a wooded acreage. During that time, I saw ghostly shapes floating swiftly through the rooms. hey were sheer almost filmy...
Once, I had an evil spirit, a demon, appear right behind my back...THAT was really scarey !! It was smack up behind me... A silver looking hairy ape -lookin thin( I discovered that this was what it was much later after I had my home exorcised and anointed and received personal help from a Deliver
At the time, I was fryin potatoes at the stove... I started flippin those potatoes around & round & got ‘real busy’ talkin to myself & it disappered as quickly & suddenly as it had appeared!)
I would walk into the living room & the rockin chair woUld start to rockin - That really bent my mind Bad bec it was only me in the room & NOBODY was sittin in the chair !! It was really Freaky !!
A couple of times, I would be huntin for a paper or something & it would just appear on the floor behind me ! So many supernatural things occurred tome while living in that house.. Too numerous to remember or mention !
Once, after the house had been anointed, my 4 - yr old son came running down the stairs into the kitchen and said, "Mommy - there's a man in my room ..." I told him to go rightupstairs & tell the man to "Get out in the name of Jesus!" And he did & the man just vanished !
When one of our distant neighbors was having a home built on the top of the hill where we lived, a road surveyor told me that long ago, there had ben an old american Indian burial ground on the premises where our house sat and, our house was about 120 years old. a lot of history and a lot of grief took place there.i
hugs,
ndy
In astral projection i was connected to my body by a silver thread - that word came off incomplete.. I don't know where the 2 came in at & i was "saved from this mindful torment by a Deliverance ministry ! I wanted to finish typing some more but i couldn't get the Caps Lock key to function properly. I gave up for now maybe later on down the road ...
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NDY