Yeah, Dr Howell's wife Trisha had a stroke as I understand. I wish them the best.

Victor, I appreciate your writing us and telling your story. I especially appreciate that you recognize the value of NCR, yet as we've seen, it's not flawless in practice yet. I too have a little hyper mobility but the relief i got was so far beyond what i ever expected, I still consider it a big win. That being said, i always hoped this would be a place where all the truth could come out. Personally, I'm way better off today due to NCR.

Do you feel that whoever did your ncr may have overdone it at some point?
Do you hear sounds when things move?
Do you find that hot showers on your head help ?,
Are the movements like a daily cycle, cyclical?

Just some ideas and curiosities :) Harvey

Dear Harvey,

Here are answers to your questions:

I`ve been only treated by the creator of NCR - Dr. Howell and I am not sure about overdoing the internal cranial work, but I do feel like there are some things regarding my health which should have been considered. I think there is a problem with my connective tissue, which I am working on now, that creates problems of holding NCR results. My point is, every time I engaged into sexual act (with my gf or without) I ended up having very negative shits. To sum it up I did not have headaches or head pressure prior NCR, now my head is filled with ridges and I have pain in various areas. I`ve studied the theory very thoroughly, watched NCR dvds, read the book unleash your structural power and also did translations of some of the work to my language. So, I am aware of the fact that you are not supposed to overwork yourself, stretch your bones and muscles into some weird way. I am thinking, that sexual acts do represent increased cranial pressure, but I mean, these I consider normal human activities. Common!. Like I mentioned, I have this negative shifts after almost each NCR round. After the first one I had very bad experience with right facial bone and TMJ, after second one I hit my self in the back of the head (ok that was my bad), and then I react to these acts. It is somehow personal for me to write about this stuff to complete strangers (no offense), but I would really like to have this answered by Dr. Lieurance. I watched his videos. I had time to research this topic a lot and I also talked to many NCR patients, in London. I am not saying the therapy is ultimately wrong, but I would like my problems to get corrected and understand why is this happening to me. It is not easy to live like this. I also train special martial arts and I have not had any of this negative shifts, even though I train hard for more than an hour, not fighting, but doing intensive gravity balancing activities, which is actually something that enables me to cope with all of this.
Concerning the sounds. I`ve heard and felt a huge shift in the first day of the last series. Then I had pretty bad ear pain.
I am not doing any hot showers on my head, so I can`t tell and I don`t plan to.
The movements are going on every day since my last ncr. I am very unstable and I do get lot of headache. I was told before that is it good then I do get headaches, if they so called travel, if the headache stays at one place it is not good. I do get pain around my sphenoid (both sides) and top of head on the left.
That`s about it for today.
Viktor

VIctor, one thing you have to compare, or try to, is how would you have been without NCR. It sounds to me like it was providing help for you. It's hard to say where you would be without it. For me that part is easy for my injuries were locked in and nothing but NCR could have relieved them. I never expected it to leave me in perfect condition, i was locked in pain for 12 years and became hyper-mobile by trying to adjust my own self.

What's sad is that the medical community at large scoffs at this, tells me it's impossible, and generally act like a bunch of big know it alls. If they applied scientific analysis to it perhaps it could be improved further. It seems that you and I and others would benefit if they recognized the pluses of NCR and put some effort into understanding better how it works and when and how it should be applied. I applaud Dr Howell for i know his reasons were to be able to reach areas that other methods couldn't do.

My friend, even if they can't straighten us out perfectly, my hope is that places like this and people who have had things like mine, for which there was no alternative, can help drive the medical system to embrace new discoveries like NCR. I just wish i didn't have to suffer 12 years until, realizing my doctors were so clueless i had to find the answer myself. I saw 24 doctors over those 12 years that did nothing for me. NCR took med from needing 180mg morphine to overcome my symptoms to no symptoms that needed morphine in THREE DAYS. That's a miracle in any book.

Dear Harvey,

I never undermined the benefits of NCR. Regarding the theoretical background of the treatment, the reasoning seems valid to me. The practical side, after my first series (summer 2008), I had negative reaction - right side of my face together with the jaw joint shifted badly. I flew to London for another treatment. In winter 2008 I hit my head very hard into a metal coat rack during my stay in spa and I had to deal with excruciating skull pain for months. I developed big bump on the left back of my skull, much of it was resolved by further series, not all. So I can tell the treatment works, I never said it did not. BUT, there is a big BUT. Almost after every series I do get negative reactions accompanied by negative skull shifting following sexual activity. So as a result I developed several ridges and my skull is contracted a lot. Dr. Howell is not sure why this is happening, he emailed me, that he never had such situation with a patient. Regarding suffering and trauma, seriously my experience with pain, torture, and suffering is extensive. I don`t think its necessary to write a story about it. I do not like to return to the past, I just would like to understand why do these negative shifts occur. My health problems include problems with digestion, TMJ, and connective tissue problems. I believe there is some condition which influenced the NCR results. In the future I plan to cleanse my liver, since I believe its very toxic. This might be the piece of the puzzle. In the meantime I am receiving treatment for jaw, lou knows the doctor. I`ve met and spoken to many people who had NCR or were planning to have it done. I realize its power, just I`m havint problems. I was looking for NCR to solve my pain with shoulder blade (skiing injury), behavioral problems (some anxiety and ADHD from childhood). I did have some head injuries throughout my life, but I did not have headaches nor head pressure. They started after the negative shifts I described above. My shoulder blade pain did not improve at all. I was having long life ear problems, which are attributed to my jaw situation. I was given orthodontics when I was young, that created some problems as well. I believe my health is a big puzzle and some are missing. I was actually searching for answers, I did not join to attack the method or its author. Luckily enough, I was able to find martial art coach and healer, who is of a great help to repair my spirit and other problems. I also mountain bike almost every day together with the martial art training once a week to be able let these things go by. Hope this message clears things out a bit more.
Viktor
P.S. my name is spelled with K :)) When I lived in US, people were spelling it always with the c. No problem though.

-Hey Viktor, yes rereading your post, you're very analytical with it. I'll try to get the spelling right in the future. I'm glad Dr H. is corresponding with you on this. LIke i said in the piece I wrote, the more he/we all can learn from difficult cases, the better for everyone. I sincerely hope that he's able to help, i know there's are tough times for him and Trish. I would so like to meet them. The NCR doctor that relieved my pain, Dr Arrandt in Miami is one of the longest practitioners. Dr Lieurance hasn't checked in for awhile, but i'll send him an email and ask him to stop by.
I applaud you for how you've taken your own health by the horns. I too try to do things that have positive effect and so far, it's been really great for me.

Hello Harvey,

there is not really problem with the spelling, I realize you are used to type my name with C. Well, my analytical skills are beyond normal :) All my life I`ve been guarded by my mother, which is the best person on earth for me. In school, I was always the disruptive element, questioning authority, theories, etc. In college, I was introduced to the principles of scientific method of evaluation, critical thinking, etc. That`s why I never accept authority as truth, instead I do look for truth which I than accept as authority. When I was little boy, I almost died because of infection, then I became hyperactive as the result of "traditional" treatment and all my life I have digestive problems because of extensive use of antibiotics. My hyperactivity resulted into injuries (some in childhood - 2head injuries and some in puberty and early adulthood) because I was seeking brain stimulation in the form of adrenalin through dangerous sports (aggressive skiing, fast speed downhill mountain biking and jumping, and others). Of course, by that time I did not understand what I do now. Also, in the early childhood I had problems with weight and I developed deep red striae. Not the traditional ones, but dark red with kinda blood inside. I still have them. I only recently came across a book which describe these, together with other symptoms I have as Cushing syndrome. I believe I do have mild form of this, I have to check it out, I think this is important so called piece of puzzle. Plus, in my early teens I`ve been fitted a wrong brace for overbite, my front teeth were pushed back. Thanks god I did not have any teeth extracted. So there we go, TMJ problems ear later plus ear pain during all my life. I`ve been to ORL emergency room about 10 times, nothing was wrong. Of course it wasn't, because the pain was caused by the jaw. Dr. Howell started to treat patients, in Dr. Amir`s office - excellent orthodontist. Prior my first NCR session I was suggested by Dr. Howell, that I will need orthodontic work as well, luckily I was able to meet this amazing doctor. Anyway, going back, later in my 20s, my health became deteriorating, my injuries started to haunt me and my joints started to dry out. I went through all the sorts of medical checkups (including several MRIs) and was diagnosed variety of stuff. The one that sticks out is that I have dessication (drying out) in my spine. My spine became to knock, grind, lock and I was it pain and pain, and pain again. No one could tell me what`s wrong. Even today, some of my joints somehow tear up. E.g. I can not do push ups anymore and when I do to much , my left knee tears inside, even though I did not have it injured. So, this going on I started to become severely anxious about WTF is going on. Because the medical field had no answers...guess what. I was diagnosed as having other psychotic decease with somatic delusions. I was forced into treatment which could be summed up as pure torture. You can`t imagine and you don`t want to. I even survived this, two drugs that they forced upon me almost killed me, one in particular caused me to almost leave this world another time again. I was brought to emergency room and it took circa 30 minutes to bring me back. It took me two years to make my family members to realize that my worsen mental state is caused by physical problems, not they way around and that so called "treatment" is killing me. To sum it up, I ended with several skin reactions, more than 30 pounds of weight gain, and diabetes. Believe it or not, 90% of this is gone, because I`ve researched. So, I became the lucky one (about 3-4%) who was able to escape this field of medicine, I consider criminal. I am only able to write this, because majority of the things I was subjected to, were healed (my soul) by the "magical" man who treats me where I live. During these 2 years I was home, off college, unemployed, and only downloading and watching documentaries about who runs the world basically. Any conspiracy you think of, name it, I probably know hours of data about it :) I watched 250 gigabytes of underground videos, official documentaries, read secret files, health videos, alternative treatments, nutrition whatever kept my mind of my physical body and traumas. I believe I know more than a lot about facts that people are hardly confronted with, because it undermines their understanding of reality. I was trying to tell everyone, now I concentrate my energy to win my personal fight. Even though this is more than personal, I think everyone should know it, because it illustrates how wrong the medical field really is. I know more than regular people, my ex girlfriend's parents were both doctors, I studied many records of people - from cradle to the grave. The system is incredibly corrupt and wrong, still people believe than administrating toxic drugs to treat only symptoms is what is called medicine. I accept that there are emergencies, when you break your leg, herbs dont work, when you get stroke, operation is necessary, BUT beyond and before that most of it is terribly wrong. Of course, it is great business, effective marketing and income for those involved. Since childhood majority of population is indoctrinated not to question authorities, they have very limited critical thinking, so they simply follow and become part of the herd. In order to improve my health I did more than a lot, I tried almost every physical therapy, I changed my diet, lost 30 pounds of body weight, started to mountain bike in normal manner, do martial art (gravitational form), rolfing, etc. Then I found NCR on the web and deciced to go for it. I think its great therapy, but I also believe some health problem is causing me personally to experience these negatives, I mentioned before. I do get bad shifts and how head pain and pressure, which I did not have before. I hope you understand that I jump from subject to subject, my brain works faster than my typing :). To sum it up, I do believe I have to fight more, just today I did 20 kilometers on the bike, next week I have martial art practice, biking again. I do this despite pain I get. In June I have state exams to finish my college , then I would like to become English teacher, and after that I plan to finish all this "crap" during the summer. I have to believe and fight, my soul is getting healed by a therapy that is stronger anything I`ve came in contact with and I also believe I will identify and eliminate the condition that effects my NCR results. I hope I put some more light into my story, I think I wrote more than a lot :). Peace and love to everyone.
Viktor

I forgot to add, that it took me 3months to get off all the crap I was given. I am now off drugs completely, quit smoking, 0 alcohol. I do not plan to consume any sort of traditional drugs. Also, I would welcome any comment, thought, anything that would guide me finding the answer, why I am having such negative reactions with NCR. Thank you.
V.

Hey Viktor, haven't talked to you well as you can see since march 2010. Geez, I guess i just wandered off on that. I wonder how you are these days. I haven't had another ncr and have had some fairly consistant leftover pain. I too feel a little extra movement in my skull, but compared to the pain i was in, i still have no complaint, my life has just continued to improve. I wish to have another series or two. I know of a couple people who've had bad adjustments. I think it kinda sucks if you had a bad series or dr howell somehow didn't apply it properly.

I think that it really needs some level of serious scientific consideration. Maybe it would contra-indicated in more people if it wasn't living in the realm where any dufus can apply the tecnhique and claim to be a natural doctor. I think, like our friend, luvtosew might have had a bad doctor based on how she described that he applied everything on one side, but what do i know. I have to trust whoever does it.

For me it's been awesome and what i have left seems like just a remnant, it bothers me enough to go for another treatment. soon i hope.

this chat just happened to come up on a google search for something else with my name in it, would you beleive

anyway, hope you're doing ok.
Harvey

Hi Viktor, sorry to hear that you are having so many problems.

Thankfully, like Harvey, I'm getting all positive results, and I've only had two sessions, so far, so I still have some residual problems.

But there are ALOT of differences in my head and especially face. The palate (maxilla) has come forward and therefore my face looks less squished.

http://www.dailystrength.org/people/1684768/photos-videos/2
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I am also doing the nutrition to go along with it. Such as diet and supplementation and bone support.

For diet, the Weston Price diet. Such as beef and/or lamb liver. It's similar to the Paleo diet. No grains, no mainstream dairy. Also fermented cod liver oil and unpastuerized butter oil (ghee). The best one is from GreenPasture.org. They also have a Butter/Cod Liver Blend. High in Vitamin A and D. I take vitamin D3 everyday. I have two kinds... one from Biotics Research called Vitamin D Forte, which is liquid and the other kind is a sublingual D3 by Snergy.

I also take the G5 Organic silica liquid by Orgono Silicium Labs. Mannatech's Plus product which also contains Boron. And Youngevity's Osteo FX Plus and other colloidal minerals and vitamins. I also take a product that contains Biocell collagen which is in liquid form. It's called Jusuru.

I'm saying this because the nutrition can make all the difference in the world. We are moving our bones, you know, and we need the raw materials to rebuild.

I do hope you can get sorted out and stable. Dr. Dean Howell is a good doctor. My NCR was done by Dr. Hillary Lampers, ND and she used to be Dr. Howell's assistant.

Hi Viktor,

I'm so sorry that you are going though so much.

I reminds me of what I've been going through. I've have had injuries to my head, chin, neck, back, shoulders, knees, ankle and wrists. I had written a musical and was about to perform it when I got a kink in my neck. I had been writing this musical for a long time and I really wanted to be at my best when I performed. I had read an article on Upper Cranial Chiropractic by a practitioner who was dropped on his head while wrestling and how he had tried everything and was healed by upper cranial. I decided to straighten out my injuries once and for all and went for some treatments. I had now idea what it took to get me back to optimal health.

Within the first sessions, three fingers in each hand went numb. I'm still not sure what happened, but I think once you release the pressure caused by the spine on any of your nerves, healing begins and when you have as many traumas that were not properly realigned when they happened, as I've had, everything starts to realign. My whole body was falling apart. I couldn't do anything without pain. On top of it all, all my teeth started to disintegrate. In desperation trying to save my teeth, I discovered CURE TOOTH DECAY, by Ramiel Nagel who also talk about the work of Weston Price and the importance of nutrition. I was always very conscious about what I ate and was quite surprised to discover that our entire food supply has become denatured by the advent of factory farming. I totally agree with Donna, the post above mine, that nutrition plays a vital role. First, like myself, you have so many injuries to begin with and you need to give yourself extra nutrients to rebuild. When you are nutrient deficient, the body will take the nutrient that is not vital from a certain area to build and feed another more important section. For instance, if you don't have enough calcium and magnesium, it will go into your bones to get the needed minerals for your heart. In my case, it went into my teeth to rebuild the injuries opened from the chiropractic adjustments. However, after reading CURE TOOTH DECAY and incorporating the recommended diet, I could actually feel my teeth become less sensitive.

You comment: "I have desiccation (drying out) in my spine. My spine became to knock, grind, lock and I was it pain and pain, and pain again. No one could tell me what`s wrong. Even today, some of my joints somehow tear up. E.g. I can not do push ups anymore and when I do to much , my left knee tears inside, even though I did not have it injured."

You might be lacking the building blocks to make spinal fluid, or tendons, or cartilage. Colostrum is good for rebuilding everything. Try making bone broth. Go on the Internet and you will find many recipes on how to make it. My mother never had arthritis or osteoporosis her entire life and after reading so many articles on the benefits of the traditional way of cooking, I'm convince, she never had those problems because of her habit of making daily soups from scratch. Good luck to you.

I would LOVE to try the bone broth. I think I heard about it from Dr. Joel Wallach of "Dead Doctors Don't Lie" Fame.

I have Osteo FX Plus for bone building along with G5 Organic Silica and also the complementary gel that goes well with it. I also have the Fermented Cod Live Oil. I still need to buy the raw better oil (ghee) from GreenPasture.org.

I also use the Magnesium Oil (spray on) from Ancient Minerals. I would like to get the Bone Support from WHM as it's very alkaline and has no taste. I have Dr. Gerard's book called Good Teeth: Birth To Death and have the monosodium phosphate to help build enamel.

I've always had a terrible time with my teeth my whole life. I can thank my parents for that, as they never gave us good nutrition to begin with, and hardly ever gave us any supplements. On top of that, they made sure I got every poisonous vaccine, mercury fillings which ruined my teeth and health, and fluoride treatments. I've spent nearly my entire adult life un-doing all of that.

I still need to get the Ghee, the sodium ascorbate, and a couple of other things.

I've talked to Dr. Eversage about NCR along with the Advanced BioStructural Correction™ to clear up this remaining roadblock in my neck and shoulders. He said they both work very well together. Thankfully, I won't have to travel far for that one.

I'm going to get better in this body and finally be comfortable in it. I'm also going to look good as I've always wanted as well.

Fascinating. That's a pretty intersting story Gwong. Thanks for putting that up here.

Hi everyone,

I did a endonasal cranial correction balloon procedure with a chiro in May 2011, which is somewhat similar to NCR. He did it 4 days in a row, twice a day. My skull expanded a lot after one of the times he did the balloon procedure- I couldn't fit my head into my cap anymore. Since then, my head has continued to expand in size in all directions. It has totally deformed my head, causing me lots of stress and depression. My head came out in all directions, including my face and forehead. Has anyone else experienced head growth after NCR? Does anyone know why my head won't stop growing? could it be that the balloon caused the connective tissues in my head to stretch and loosen to the point that the skull bones are moving outwards? My sister also did the same balloon procedures with me, and also has had immense head growth since then. Thanks for your help!

I have had the same thing. It is a total nightmare. Have you done anything about this? Is there anyway to undo this process? Can a cranial osteopath help? I think ti all has to do with the manipulation of the spend bone-my forehead is higher and wider and my nose and cheeks are so prominent now-very depressing.

Derek a representative of Dr. DEAN Howell stated the following to me in an email. Lew (Dr. Arrandt) refused to stay current in our techniques which have drastically changes since he took the course in the mid 90's. He is much too rough with the balloons, doesn't do any of the required bodywork and still charges more Han any of our other practitioners. Our treatments in comparison take 40 or minutes per visit compared to his 15. Be aware that he is not an NCR practitioner and instead is doing his own basterized form of endonasal therapy.
Has anyone else been told this or something similar about other practitioners?