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Dissociative identity disorder is a diagnosis described as the existence in an individual of two or more distinct identities or personalities, each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment. At least two of these personalities are considered to routinely take control of the individual's behavior, and there is also some associated memory loss,...

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Wheezie 04/26/2013

I was recently watching Celebrity Rehab 5.Amy Fisher was a part of this season.Stephen Adler(former drummer of Guns & Roses) was also on the show as well.He had taken a particularly abusive disliking to Amy Fisher and was abusive to her during their group sessions together.It got to the point to where he actually made her completely dissociate.The therapist Dr. Drew pointed it out,explained what dissociation was and made a point to note that until Amy Fisher came back into her body it was futile trying to connect and speak with her.I found it interesting because other than rare times in my childhood where I remember my sister dissociating I have never seen someone dissociate that deeply.My husband told me he has seen me in that state numerous times.I also found it interesting that every woman on the show had a history of sexual trauma and that was the underlying issue that contributed to them abusing drugs and alcohol.

theblackrose 04/26/2013

It seems like dissociation is becoming more and more common.

k2hsharpe 04/27/2013

I've never seen this show so my question may be a little naive, but how come Dr drew didn't put his boot up adler's arse and rocket him off the show? I know the Hippocratic oath is largely myth, but none the less if drew its a genuine doctor I'd imagine he has a legal duty of care to not treat those under his care as either labrat or advertising fodder? Nor to allow others to treat them in this manner for the sake of ratings?

just wondering

Wheezie 04/27/2013

My husband and I wondered the same thing but they passed his abusiveness off as a symptom of his withdrawals.This is not Adler's first time on this show and he also did a stent on Sober house which is a spin off of Celebrity rehab.On Sober House he actually physically accosted the woman who runs the house and was arrested for that as well as possession of heroin.The lead councelor for Celebrity Rehab has been dealing with Adler for 25 years so maybe that has something to do with them giving him all these chances.Either way I would have had him thrown off as well.As far as I know three celebrities have died since doing the show.Addiction to drugs and alcohol is turning out to be one of the fastest growing ways a person dies in this day and age.

tyzz27 04/27/2013

Im just thankful that I live in Australia and these type of shows are not on free to air tv. To have sad statistics s this is not to be something to be proud of and even though it might get ratings there would be a public outcry for behaviour like this. They did try something like these several yrs ago and within 5 minutes of it going to the air, the public complaints had it pulled from the tv. Sure it might be tantalising to out eyes to see celebrities in this state but ulitimately they are people too.

On a positive note it is good that dssociation is becoming more common. Hopefully one day in the near future people with severe forms of dissociation will not need to hide in their homes and can be treated in the same manner as someone who has asthma or a heart attack.

starfish 04/27/2013

I love Dr. Drew. He is kind, gentle, understanding, and knows very well what he's talking about. I don't have cable, so I only got to see him on regular TV when he had a talk show.

Nobody in my family or friends had pointed out any notice of my dissociation, whether they noticed or not I don't know. Except the one time in a Bible study class, and one (very ignorant) person there asked me how my demons were doing. I asked her why she thought that, and told me because my voice whad been changing. I wasn't aware of it.

Also, it looks to me like several of my other family members dissociate too. And, since I get to be the family scapegoat, they of course are not aware of what I've seen in them, either.

Wheezie 04/27/2013

That is what stood out to me as well.How subtle a person who is dissociating is.I guess we learn how to hide it well.The show really speaks of trauma and how it affects a person.On numerous occasions the councelors are seen grounding the patients and they also spoke of becoming "little" when you are afraid.

deleted_user 04/27/2013

disociation and incest rape especially at a young age are married it goes hand in hand to me it is just simply well not simply ,, ptds to the extreme as the say complex ,, I see it in death and grieving as a very natural way for the mind to protect,, that for children usually ends up creating alters as adult trauma has a chance to heal better as our brains are more able to assimilate,,

deleted_user 04/27/2013

star so so sorry you were the victims of that well meaning lady who called your disociation demonic ,, the jesus I love is all in all and gave us this mind to help us survive,, many amazing people with DID and all of us are amazing to be here , the demon stuff scares me to me it is demonic to judge someone like that ,, I am proud of your recovery efforts the mind is a miracle , who can explain grief for instance we go into shock at the death of a loved one for a reason,, by design to take the time to heal,, imagine that,, sure DID is controversial so is being differernt gay mental illness but we must believe in ourselves at some point , what others think of me is none a my business ,, as the say in AA ,, I know me you know yourself,, and DID survivors are some of the most amazing gfited totally tenacious beings on the planet , Time for it to come out of the proverbial closet,,

stephanietram 04/28/2013

interesting comment about dissociation becoming more common. I think that is true too. Our culture trains young children to dissociate with television and video game overloads. They get in this zone where they are not really involved in their entertainment, and they are switched off to their surrounding environment. When they get stressed they head right for the electronic fix, and eventually they gain the habit of dissociation. We, as a culture, need better skills for handling stresses of everyday life.

deleted_user 04/28/2013

it seems like a national epidemic finding a way shut down because the world is so complex

deleted_user 04/29/2013

wow, Stephanie, I didn't think of that before, but now I think you're right. We are trained to dissociate in our school classrooms where we daydream while the teacher drones on, in church while a preacher drones on, watching tv where people move and talk and we don't respond, and video games where we kill and destroy and it seems like nothing.
But it's also a classic reaction to shock as when something happens and we say "I just can't believe it", or "oh, no, oh no, not this!" . Some things just take longer for our brains to process.

starfish 04/29/2013

stephanie and bmw, I agree with you 100%.

Wheezie 04/29/2013

I think you guys hit the nail on the head when it comes to dissociating during video games and tv.The truly frightening aspect of this is that these companies know that their consumers are dissociating while playing these games and watching these tv shows and movies.They introduce subliminals throughout these games and shows to affect how we think.It is well know throughout the advertising industry that subliminals work and have been used for sixty years now.They are actually outlawed in many countries because of their affect on people but these companies still get away with it.

deleted_user 04/29/2013

wheezie I was watching mad men about the big start of the ad business yes indeed you are right we are brainwashed and getting disociated all at the same time for the almighty dollar great share

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