Jealousy Support Group
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In the morning he says that hie beatings were insignificant and playful like he would beat a brother in a playful fight. Yet my body hurts. He says his words are no big deal whil they hurt me really deep. His regular irritability is something he ofte denies yet I feel it and feel bad that he won't always tell me whats irritating him and so I can clarify. He does not wait to check if I am really in teh wrong or mant what he perceived. If I take the remote from his hands he loses it. Duing a fight he tries to avaoid me by focussing on something like his phone or drinking milk.
I have taken that awy to get him to pay attention to me and listen. He often beats me up right after that. Now I tell him not to ignore me as it hurts me. Yet he believes that I should change.
When I tried takig away his milk cup to show him itsno big deal in a cool and mature way to let him know that it was not worth beating me over, he tried to take away my marriage necklace and wedding ring!!!
He finally did taka awy my marriage necklac and attemppted to take away my wedding ring.
Only later on he tend sto feel much remorse and I feel compasiosn/pity and love and hope.
He called the cops on me once when he provoked me and got freaked and ezcalated things and blew exaggerated what I did...that was many months ago.
Yet he tried to threaten me with that again. Although HE beats me up. He tells me that his brusies show and I would get into trouble. Like I did. This is the first time in my life any cop had come to me. I have been a super professionala nd sophisticated person. Never been in the wrong.
Several other distortions where he fools me and does things that he discounts and tried to get me in trpouble by crying foul aboutw aht I do.
I believe in those times that may be he is not worthy of me and not interested in putting in much into the marriage.
Yet at other imes he has been very supportive around my jeaousy and healing and takes good care of me.
He told me that he grew up in a broken hom full of divorces. And said that the marrige does not mean AS much to me as i might to me...referring to how I might NEED the marriage and how y investment in the marriage and relationship implies that I am needy in some ways.
I told him I can be OK without him. I believe so. Yet tehre is love between us.
Whne I called his mom once when he hit em and I felt frustrated, she gave me back saying she didn't know what I did!!!
Instead of atleast aplogizing for courtesy for what was happening.
Of course I don't want her visting us or them impor=sing on us. I don't think his mom honours me at all
As a doughter-in-law whe never even gave me a single gift...even a cheap one!
I feel that I have not stood upto my self worth so people have tended to see me as needy or weak.
Yet I have an unmistakable and irressistible vulnerability due to my childhood abuse and having to be too independent as a child. And even now I have barely any family support.
I have to stay at a hotel after a physical fight and pay money.
There are a few more things that put me in a vulnerable situation...
I am just becaoming independent.
I do believe in love and marriage...maybe I am polyanna.
I did ebleive he could chage because I believed I could too..and accepting each other in the meantime. He has also overcome things in his life through will and has changed.
The difficulty around him is that he is HIGHLY passive aggerssive and very intelligent and manipulative and play mind games easily adn hurt me emotionallya nd spychologically where it hurts.
He repeats my deepest hurts, wounded beliefs, threatens to call my boss and ruin my career and reputation and create big hurt for me. I don't know.
Neither of us have much money for divorce and I fear him seeing someone if we separate. I beleive it would ebhard for me to get back with him after all this.
Maybe that must not be my bigegst concern. I could find someone more healthy as I get healthy too?
I believed we would both heal and grow and mature together.
Its sad
Like when I try ti get him to see how he escalated things, he focuses on things I did once the figt was escalated. He focuses on things that I did after he hurt me so bad. I have learned to refarain a lot now.
Yet its hard sometimes.
Its hard to locate what he does the little nuances, body language faial expressions. He used to abuse me saying I am in his physical space. yet I realized that at the beginning of a fight, he would simply 'walk -in to' me with the pretext of picking up something nearby and he actually ebleives he is picking something up ONLY. And thinks I AM in his way.
Rather than ask for me o move out of the way.
I realized that made me want to stop him. He would then react to me stopping him or touching him with my hands. I realized I did that to stop him. i startedseeing this patterns after many fights.
Guess I have not been very aware of HOW exactly eh manipulates and distorts things, plays fair and doe snot own up to what he does immediately. So I go after him to make hi admit it. He complains that I can't let thinsg go. I complain that I will let things go if its acknolwedged that he did it.
He is so smart that its insidious his abuse and hard for me to see in the moment. I am more open and direct.
WANTING ME and this marriage. I beleiv he does. And his ctions show that. He is willing to dow aht it takes and willing to not wath senstive things with me on TV and do anything to trigegt jealousy and willing to work with me on behaviour patters. Yet his disdaina dn fear around marraige (although he DID want to be married, courting me again indirectly) and intimacy and fear of abandonment and getting hurt. So he keeps his things private, is upse if ask him things generally, has been slow and difficult to open up about things in his life and is generally secretive and privat. Of course it makes me feel isnecure and jealous. AS lng as I am willing to be the 'insecure' one, he is willing to 'DO' things FOR ME, like sharing (wow, don't couples do that in general??) or letting me know where he goes,informing me of things like his parents palling to visit us (duh!) sharing about his intens epast and some thngs that would have made me think about goibg ahea with him. It came out slowly.
I know he has agood heart and its his own fears and weaknesses. But as I am growing up and feeling more respect loev and worgt for myself, I am unable to settle for being disrespected anymore. Its like that has to GO now. the person I am cannot coexist with secrecy, diserespet, insults psychological torture distortions or abuse.
Of course he calls me the abuser , (going into offnce lest his side be seen). I get confused and unable o defend. I KNOW he abuses me and withdraws from em.
He is needy and likes to project it rather than value me and us.
He blames me for most things and often brings up jealousy.
My last week was cONTINUOUSLY An almost totally jealous free.
So he can't go back to that. Until I stard marking things on the calender, I blamed my insecuritya nd jealousy as the reason for most problems and felt grateful for his love.
Now I don't believe thats the real story at all. yes I am healing jealousy.
But there were things HE did that disrespected me, like cheking out a girl in shorts BLATANTLY in front of me and forgetting me in the moment on our first real date and a very romantic evening.
I OF COURSE deserve better.
He does not do those things any more.
yet apart from my jealousy and insecurity, he is cold and unwilling to trust me and our marriage and give it and me and real respect and honour deserved.
He plays it safe by stating a littl allof a little private, excluding me...from his friendships and family.
After his parents visit, he continued to talk to him mom every day and they woudl never include me to say Hello.
he always wants to keep me OUTSIDE his life and his real personality, needs and self. I perceive and react to that isolation lack of respect , openness and rejection.
H eis very isnecure in himself and feels inadequate and reacts to perceived criticism and controls at the drop of a hat and its almost like he is doing me a favour by being married to me.
An says he pities me and fell in due to my neediness.
I know that he courted me. I feel in out of compassion for himadn mercy and grace for hima dn his farilities.
I laughed understandably at his feeble attempts to ask me out or be with me.
I believed that with time he would ahve more confidance in hismelf to be a real man.
Yet he only has been shoing his brutal cold and cruel side.
Or does what I want takes care of me and acts sweet.
Only he won't open up emptioally to me in any genuine way.
Maybe sometimes insecurities and jealousies are a way for us to perceive that not everyone has the courage or power to love or respect us the ay we want or put in as muchinvetment as wel do. Having One leg out the door at all times.
No wonder we feel a little unsafe as these are TWO-way streets.
Needing TWO people in the relationship.
We don't watch TV togethere and very censored. Watch animation or stuff in my language..am not a white gal. he is white. So jealous of any white women he may see...his exes were white
am a brown one...he told me he does not find them too attractive except me...so we watch movies from my end of teh word...still nervous around the actresses...he used to watch news everyday...stopped watching TV...i make him close his esyes while I loom for movies on netflix...so he does not see the covers...
he is now more serious and mindful among female clerks customer service executives ove the phone and does not talk to women in general...white women out of question...or i do believe that...i was doinng well and larning to trust...as my jealousy free days began to pile up on the calender, his pain seems to hve come out. ormaybe he feels threatened. I started doingw ell I o longer 'need' him. I am more sesnitive to his frequent 'put-down' condescension and dismisalls that I took previously feleing unworthy or confused. The power dynamic changed. Yet jealousy has hurt him and us a lot. I am concerned about him going to the gym. So he needs to give me some agreements about not checking oyt anyone. he needs to go to meetings for aa. he is sober but does like to go to them. I had noproblem when we lived in a town (where we met) with mostly men in his meetings and the town was not very poplated with white people. Now we are in a white town and he wants to go to mixed gender meetings. I was scared to death thinkng of how he will share his heart open with some same women everyday...and he is somehwats hutdown to me and shy an scared to say things taht may trigegr my jealousy. Afraid that he will bond in a meeting blaring his heart and soul and meetings omene daily. Never been to an AA. Later he exlained that he does not alk to teh women tehre and tehre is less one-one talks at the meetings. I asked if people hug and if he can refrain from touching anyone there. Ican never go to these meetings. They are Anonymous and heacnnot tell me anything or about anyone there. I am too uncomfortabl with that. He has been going to one meeting which is men only. Not many such available. I asked him to give me information about these meetings and promise not to touch any woman there, hug, handshake, or anything...and not share with women there. He slacked on giving me any info or agreements so could feel safe. But these meetings he likes. He palys music and sings and I got agitated since he kept abandoning me right at the beginning of when moved in with him...to distant pubs and bars where he sang and mad some money. Now I never got taken to any of those...again many white women...and I am very nervoue about the attire. I come from a more conservative culture and found it painful to see women exhibiting skin. Unfortunatley, in the beginning when we were dating he blatantly checked out a girl running on teh side of the stress in shorts. That was a romanticdate and we were getting closer. I wa his girlfriend and sleeping with him. After a bautiful time at a beach, on the way home, he totally locks his esyes on this girl running in teeny shorts, turned around to look at her when we came closer in teh car and continued to look as she ran ahead (at a signal) while she chatetd and smiled at someone. He is smiling too. The whole time he was completely engrossed in that. Did not even look at me. At the end after that girl had left he looke d at me. I had been seeing him all along. I asked and he lied that he was not cheking her out. Anyays, I trusted my intuition and it hurt us later for a long time when he admitetd he was attracted and checking her out! So more afraid of white women in shorts.
don't know where to go for counseeling thats affordable. We need marital therapy too. Yet most insurance companies don't cover that. Confused what to do. Tired and exhausted. Now its affecting work which is piling up. Have a gerat boss but I was doing well and then flunder when we have a fight at home!.
Please pray for us.