Tossed you actually bring up a good point.
I think it actually runs throughout a mans life and at no one time. We can be greater, smarter, or what ever one wants to say, but we are still animals and have primal urges. A mans primal urge is to bread as many women as posible and that urge is controled through being civilized and having a concience. At times all men would have to desire exactly that not meanning that all men act on it, but the desire would be there.
Good post

I think I understand what you are asking. I like sex. The more I can get the better. However... I have found that women want it just as much as me if not more...Women sex drive when they get in their forties is a wonderful thing. God really has nothing to do with it for me. I think the illusion is that women want something different than men. Communication is key.

why do you think that women want anything different then men?

I've always wanted sex. Sex is good and can be made interesting with a partner who is willing to try new things. Once you get into the same old, same old it could get boring, predictable and not worth the time.

So spicing it up in a relationship will always keep it fresh. Oh yeah, and communication...always helpful.

And looking, is a natural reaction of both men and women.. Acting upon a look is not acceptable if you are in a committed relationship...

I agree with MsViv, I think when it comes down to it, in sex men and women are very similar:

most want it

most want it frequently

most want it with variety

and most want there to be an emotional connection

I think it is societies double standards that screw people up.

I agree with the others. The fact is, sex relieves human misery, for BOTH sexes. But it's HOW each individual VIEWS sex (as a door to love?) that defines what it is. I think we all want to feel beautiful and special. There is something powerful in the erection, though, so it's safe to say that men lust for power. Women hoard power over men as well, mentally, so it all becomes a moot point. A man (depending on the man, of course) may have the upper body strength that a woman lacks, but a woman can sure make up for this in intellectual and spiritual strength!

The task is not to hoard power over each other, but to try to appreciate and learn from each other!

@ tossed: I honestly don't think a strong conviction to God has anything to do with this one. I think God made that drive and I think God wants to see that drive satisfied within safe boundaries.

It's one thing to change a desire: prefer hurley logo over body glove logo. It's an entirely different matter to change need.

The intensity of the drive, the need . . . . deep breath . . . hands hanging onto my hair . . . speechless . . . I'm in my 40s. Perhaps primal is the best description, needing to be completely unleashed mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically -primal . . . .

It's better for 2 to bond, I think. I agree with everything that koolman said.

As far as crucify . . . there isn't anything to crucify over. Good topic.

I myself have constant and primal urges. I don't supress them. I don't know if I can, I've not bothered trying. I don't see the point in denying who I really am. I love sex. Love, love,love it! Very rarely am I not up for sex, and I actually find that it's my partner, the man in my life, who is all chop change and constantly adjusting his ideas of the things he likes and wants, sexually. I don't think that behaviour is exclusive to either sex, although it undoubtedly occurs more often in women....or does it? Maybe we aswomen feel ashamed to complain about men not wanting sex with us, since we believe men are conditioned to want to shag any remotely desirable female. Maybe admitting that your husband or boyfriend doesn't want to have sex with you, or is a constant sexual puzzle is like admitting we're not sexy, and so women keep quiet....
And how many men are going to say "She keeps pressuring me for sex! She never lets the subject drop! I'm not a machine! She never even wants foreplay!!" ?? Not many, I bet, although I expect thousands want to. Social conditioning- it has a lot to answer for!

Yeah Sorce,

Personally I think that alot of social attitudes are fucked up particularly when it comes to sex and the percieved roles of men and women.

I think people's often fucked up behavior in this area has alot more to do with maladaptive social conditioning than anything else.

It's called compromise which all meaningful relationships consist of.

Part of me wants to
Part of me doesnt.