I had my eyebrows and eyeliner tatooed 17 yr ago . The doctor give me shots in my eyes which hurt and swelled up. So I went back 5 rimes and had him repair and fix the eyeliner without any thing to numb them. The eyebrows I could stand the pain. In time the eyebrows turned purple, than blue. The eyeliner stayed black but the design wasnt perfect but ok. He had taken the lines all the way to the end of the eye. He was one of the best and came highly recommended. So, two weeks ago I went to michigan for a retouch and this guy had passed away. So I called around and got someone who does make up. She did my eyebrows and eyeliner. Again, the brows no problem, but the eyes unbarrible, even using ice. She had that rob on stuff but you know how that works.I thought she was going to rub the skin off my eyes. I will be going back in dec to have the eyes finished. Can anyone give me any input on how to mimamize the pain? also she is going to try and flesh color some of the ink close to the cornor of my eye my eye.