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The following article is from Dr. Murphree's newsletter.
I've been taking 5-HTP and GABA for several months now in lieu of an AD and antiseizure meds used to control my bipolar 2. Since doing so, not only has my mood been ten times as stable as on meds, I actually feel normal after being sick for twenty-five very long years that went from feeling weird all the time to being 'sick' sick six days a week. All I can say is that the amino acids corrected something in my brain and the fibro isn't the issue that it once was. My latest flare Sunday was no worse than the first one I had so many years ago and was gone by evening.
Take this article for what you think it's worth:
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Dear Friends,
I thought I'd share some information I submitted for NutriNews, a monthly newsletter for doctors. Some of the material is a little technical but I'm sure many of you well-read fibromites will be able to follow with no problem. I hope this information is helpful.
I continue to get letters from people wanting to know about certain medications and treatments for fibromyalgia, I've written a response that goes into more detail about how I deal with FMS and CFS and the reasons I recommend the treatments that I use. I've also put together a new SUPER Jumpstart Package that I know many of you will be interested in. Please see the link at the end of this message to see that response and information about my SUPER Jumpstart Package.
My article from NutriNews...
Fibromyalgia syndrome (FMS) is an illness characterized by diffuse muscle pain, poor sleep, and unrelenting fatigue.
Individuals with fibromyalgia may also experience headaches, anxiety, depression, poor memory, numbness and tingling in the extremities, cold hands and feet, irritable bowel syndrome, lowered immune function, and chemical sensitivities. Over 10 million Americans suffer with fibromyalgia; ninety percent of them are women between 25 and 45 years old. 1
Diagnostic tests are currently unavailable to confirm fibromyalgia. The diagnosis is usually reached after ruling out other conditions including neurological, autoimmune, endocrine, musculoskeletal, immunological, and mental disorders. Patients have typically had the illness at least 7 years and have been seen by a dozen different doctors before they're diagnosed with fibromyalgia.
In 1990 The American College of Rheumatology (ACR) first proposed the current criteria for defining fibromyalgia syndrome. The criteria include a history of widespread pain lasting more than 3 months and the presence of at least 11, out of a possible 18, tender points. Pain is considered to be widespread when it affects all four quadrants of the body; that is, you must have pain in both your right and left sides as well as above and below the waist to be diagnosed with fibromyalgia. 2
Fibromyalgia shares several of the same symptoms associated with chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS). One study which compared 50 CFS patients with 50 FMS patients, found that their symptoms of low grade fever (28%), swollen lymph nodes (33%), rash (47%), cough (40%), and recurrent sore throats (54%) to be the same for both syndromes. 3
Another study comparing CFS patients with FMS patients showed that the brain wave patterns, tender points, pain, and fatigue were virtually identical in both groups. 4
While there are common characteristics shared by FMS and CFS patients, I've found some distinct differences between the two syndromes.
Those with what I call "true fibromyalgia," suffer from fatigue but always list poor sleep and diffuse muscle pain as their primary complaints. They consistently demonstrate symptoms associated with low serotonin levels; poor sleep, increased pain, irritable bowel, brain fog, anxiety, and depression. 5
Patients with "true CFS" have a compromised immune system, which is the root of their illness, elevated blood antibodies, intermittent sore throats, and tender lymph nodes. They tend to have chronic sinus or upper respiratory or other infections, which linger for extended periods of time. Unlike those with fibromyalgia, individuals with CFS may have normal serotonin levels. And, unlike those with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue patients may not have any trouble with their sleep. They usually report they sleep all the time, yet never feel rested.
What Causes Fibromyalgia?
Research suggests fibromyalgia may be the result of:
Trauma 6, especially whiplash injuries.7
Hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal axis (HPA) dysfunction.8
Emotional/physical/mental stress. 9
Low thyroid function.10
Low serotonin states.11
Adrenal dysfunction.12, 13,14
Chronic viral, mycoplasma, and or bacterial infections.15
Endocrine disorders.16
Sleep disorders. 17,18
The truth is we really don't know for sure what causes fibromyalgia.
What we do know:
Fibromyalgia is now thought to arise from a miscommunication between the nerve impulses of the central nervous system. The neurons, which supply the brain, become more excitable, exaggerating the pain sensation. This over-amplication of pain is referred to as "central sensitization." 19
Fibromyalgia patients have a reduction in their pain threshold (allodynia), an increased response to painful stimuli (hyperalgesia) and an increase in the duration of pain after nociceptor stimulation (persistent pain).
Individuals with fibromyalgia syndrome have low levels of serotonin, a 4-fold increase in nerve growth factor, and elevated levels of substance P.20 Nerve growth factor (NGF) is a member of a family of peptides known as the neurotrophins. The exposure of nociceptive sensory neurons to NGF leads to up-regulation of substance P in sensory neurons. 21
Substance P, the neuropeptide in spinal fluid, is a neurotransmitter that is released when axons are stimulated. Increased levels of substance P increase the sensitivity of nerves to pain or heighten awareness of pain. Although it's not fully understood, fibromyalgia patients have an imbalance of the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis. This imbalance creates hormonal inconsistencies, which disrupt the body's ability to maintain homeostasis.
Many of the most common fibromyalgia symptoms including widespread muscle pain, fatigue, poor sleep, gastrointestinal problems, and depression regularly occur in people with various neuroendocrine disorders, including those manifested by HPA dysfunction. 22
Researchers believe suppression of the HPA (quite likely from chronic stress), which results in lowering human growth hormone (HGH), dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), cortisol, and other hormones, is aggravated by the chronic pain and poor sleep associated with fibromyalgia. 23, 24
Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Adrenal Axis (HPA) Dysfunction
The main function of the hypothalamus is homeostasis, or maintaining the body's status quo.
The hypothalamus receives and transmits messages from the nervous system and hormonally through the circulatory system. Because of its broad sphere of influence, the hypothalamus could be considered the body's master computer. The hypothalamus receives continuous input about the state of the body, and must be able to initiate compensatory changes if anything drifts out of line.
The Hypothalamus regulates such bodily functions as:
1. Blood pressure - is often low in those with fibromyalgia.
2. Digestion - bloating, gas, indigestion, and reflux are common in FMS patients.
4. Circadian rhythms (sleep/wake cycle)- which is consistently disrupted in FMS.
6. Sex drive- loss of libido is a common complaint for FMS patients.
7. Body temperature - is often low in FMS patients.
8. Balance and coordination- FMS patients have balance and coordination problems.
9. Heart rate - mitral valve prolapse (MVP) and heart arrhythmias are a common finding in FMS patients.
10. Sweating - it's not unusual for FMS patients to experience excessive sweating.
11. Adrenal hormones- are consistently low in FMS patients.
12. Thyroid hormones and metabolism-hypothyroid is a common finding in FMS patients.
Recent studies show that over 43% of FMS patients have low thyroid function. It's estimated that those with FMS are 10 to 250,000 times more likely to suffer from thyroid dysfunction.25
A Vicious Cycle
1. Chronic stress disrupts HPA homeostasis, leading to allodynia.
2. Chronic pain disrupts the circadian rhythm.
3. Dysfunction in the circadian rhythm results in poor sleep.
4. Poor sleep reduces growth hormone production, leading to poor repair of damaged muscle fibers, poor memory, fatigue, suppressed immune function, and more pain.26
5. Increased pain further disrupts sleep and leads to depletion of stress coping chemicals including serotonin. 27,28
6. A reduction in serotonin causes an increase in the neurotransmitter, substance P.
Substance P enhances pain receptors, creating even more pain.
7. Poor sleep and ongoing stress lead to fatigue, mood disorders, IBS and may cause thyroid
dysfunction. 29
8. Chronic stress contributes to adrenal fatigue, decreased DHEA, and lowered resistance to stress. Decreased stress coping abilities then lead to lowered immune function. 30
9. Lowered blood volume from adrenal dysfunction (and resultant hypotension) leads to further fatigue.31
Stress and Fibromyalgia
A survey by The Fibromyalgia Network reports that 62% of their respondents list physical or emotional stress as the initiating factor in their acquiring fibromyalgia. 32
I believe chronic stress is the underlying catalyst for the onset of HPA dysfunction and fibromyalgia. Several studies have demonstrated how chronic stress undermines the normal hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis (HPA) function.33
When explaining the role of stress in fibromyalgia, I find the following analogy helps put stress and fibromyalgia into perspective.
Treatment
No doubt about it, treating fibromyalgia patients and their plethora of symptoms can be intimidating.
Although I've found sleep to be the essential first step in successfully treating fibromyalgia, there are several hormonal, nutritional and biochemical deficiencies that must be corrected before a patient can truly beat fibromyalgia. Unfortunately, space doesn't permit me to address these potential deficiencies at this time. I'll spend the rest of this newsletter exploring the relationship of serotonin, deep restorative sleep and fibromyalgia. I've consistently found that many of the most troubling symptoms associated with fibromyalgia, poor sleep, fatigue, chronic pain, IBS, mood disorders, and "brain fog," are diminished (sometimes dramatically) when serotonin levels are boosted and normal circadian rhythms restored.
The Importance of a Good Night's Sleep
Studies have shown that individuals who were prevented from going into deep sleep for a period of a week develop the same symptoms associated with FMS and CFS; diffuse pain, fatigue, depression, anxiety, irritability, stomach disturbances, and headaches. 34,35.
Sleep deprivation markedly increases inflammatory cytokines (pain causing chemicals)--by a whopping 40%. 36
Serotonin
Serotonin helps regulate sleep, digestion, pain, mood, and mental clarity.37
Serotonin helps:
1. Raise the pain threshold (have less pain), by blocking substance P.
2. You fall asleep and stay asleep through the night.
3. Regulate moods. "The happy hormone" reduces anxiety and reduces depression.
4. Reduce sugar cravings and over-eating.
5. Increase a person's mental abilities.
6. Regulate normal gut motility (transportation of food-stuff) and reverse irritable bowel syndrome (IBS).
Surveys have shown that as many as 73% of FMS patients have irritable bowel syndrome.
You have more serotonin receptors in your intestinal tract than you do in your brain.
Emotionally stressful situations cause the body to release adrenaline, cortisol and insulin. These stress hormones stimulate the brain to secrete serotonin. Long term stress and poor dietary habits can deplete the body's serotonin stores.38
Tryptophan, 5 Hydroxytryptophan (5HTP) and Serotonin
Tryptophan is one of eight essential amino acids. Tryptophan is absorbed from the gut into the bloodstream and then dispersed throughout the body. Ninety percent of tryptophan is used for protein synthesis, one percent is converted to serotonin, and the balance is used to make niacin. In the formation of serotonin, tryptophan is hydroxylated to 5-hydroxy-tryptophan (5-HTP) by tryptophan hydroxylase.
5-HTP is converted to serotonin by the decarboxylase enzyme, which is vitamin B6 dependent. Tryptophan is transported across the blood-brain barrier via a transport molecule, which also carries leucine, isoleucine, and valine, and prefers leucine.
However, 5-HTP easily crosses the blood-brain barrier and does not utilize this transport mechanism; thus, it does not compete for passage through the blood-brain barrier with these amino acids.39
And unlike tryptophan, which is made from bacterial fermentation (and hence subject to contamination), 5HTP is derived from the West African plant Grifonia simplicifolia.
In the body, 5-HTP is converted directly in to serotonin. It is not broken down by tryptophan pyrrolase, and does not have to compete for transport across the blood-brain barrier.
Individuals with fibromyalgia have low levels of tryptophan38, serotonin39, and
5-HTP.40 Studies show that fibromyalgia patients have higher levels of metabolites in the kynurenine pathway, which diverts tryptophan away from serotonin production.41
Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI) Medications
Prescription antidepressants can be helpful. However, antidepressant drugs have potential side effects including anxiety, depression, fatigue, decreased sex drive, and disruption of normal circadian rhythms.42
SSRI's are supposed to help a patient hang onto and use their naturally occurring stores of the brain chemical serotonin. It's like using a gasoline additive to help increase the efficiency of your cars fuel.
Most of the patients I see with fibromyalgia are running on fumes and a gasoline additive won't help.
Please keep in mind that several studies show that between 19-70% of those taking antidepressant medications do just as well by taking a placebo or sugar pill.43
I recommend my patients boost their serotonin levels by taking 5HTP.
5HTP and Depression
Studies (including double-blind) comparing SSRI and tricyclic antidepressants to 5HTP have consistently shown that 5HTP is as good if not better than prescription medications in treating mood disorders. Furthermore, 5HTP doesn't have some of the more troubling side effects associated with prescription medications. 44, 45
5HTP and Sleep
5HTP has been shown to be beneficial in treating insomnia, especially in improving sleep quality by increasing REM sleep and increases the body's production of melatonin by 200%. 46,47
5HTP and Fibromyalgia
Double-blind placebo-controlled trials have shown that patients with FMS were able to see the following benefits from taking 5HTP: 48.
decreased pain.
improved sleep.
less tender points.
less morning stiffness.
less anxiety.
improved moods in general, including in those with clinical depression. 49
increased energy.
Irritable Bowel Syndrome, 5HTP and Serotonin
There are more serotonin receptors in the intestinal tract than there are in the brain. This is one reason people get butterflies in their stomach when they get nervous.50
The brain and gut are connected through the neuroreceptors 5-hydroxytriptamine-3 (5-HT3) and 5-hydroxytriptamine-4 (5-HT4). These serotonin receptors regulate the perception of visceral pain and the gastrointestinal (GI) motility. Serotonin controls how fast or how slow food moves through the intestinal tract.51, 52
It's common for the symptoms associated with IBS, diarrhea and constipation, to disappear within 1-2 weeks once serotonin levels are normalized with 5HTP replacement therapy.
My 5HTP and Sleep Restoration Protocol
I instruct my patients to take 50mg of 5HTP 30 minutes before bed on an empty stomach (90 minutes after or 30 minutes before eating), with 4 ounces of grape juice. I know 5HTP doesn't have to compete with other amino acids to cross the blood brain barrier, but this routine seems to heighten the effect of 5HTP.
One of three things will happen when taking 5HTP.
Starting with 50 mg. of 5HTP-
1. The patient falls asleep within 30 minutes and sleeps through the night. If so, they stay on this dose until their next scheduled visit with me (typically 2 weeks).
2. Nothing happens. This is typical response to such a low dose. The patient should add an additional
50 mg. each night (up to a max of 300 mg.) until they fall asleep within 30 minutes and sleep through the night.
3. Instead of making the patient sleepy, the first dose makes them more alert. This occurs more often in CFS and chemical sensitivity patients who have a sluggish liver. If this happens, they're to discontinue taking 5HTP at bedtime and instead take 50 mg. with food for 1-2 days. Taking 5HTP with food seems to help slow down it's absorption, allowing the liver to process it more effectively. Taking 5HTP with food will not (usually) make you sleepy. After 1-2 days on 5HTP with no further problems, they should increase to 100 mg. of 5HTP with each meal (300mg a day).
Melatonin
Melatonin is the primary hormone of the pineal gland and acts to regulate the body's circadian rhythm, especially the sleep/wake cycle. One percent of serotonin turns into melatonin, which then promotes deep restorative sleep. Melatonin is an extremely important hormone, which plays a vital role in the circadian rhythm.
Normally, melatonin levels begin to rise in the mid- to late evening, remain high for most of the night, and then decline in the early morning hours.
Natural melatonin production is partly affected by light. During the shorter days of the winter months, melatonin production may start earlier or, more often, later. This change can lead to symptoms of seasonal affective disorder (SAD), or winter depression.53
Natural melatonin levels decline gradually with age. Some older adults produce very small amounts of melatonin or none at all.
Melatonin Replacement Therapy
When administered in pharmacological doses (1-6 mg. before bed), melatonin acts as a powerful sleep-regulating agent that controls the circadian rhythm. In a recent study, volunteers were either given a .3 mg. or a 1mg. dose of melatonin or a placebo. Both levels of melatonin were effective at decreasing the time needed to fall asleep.54
Delayed Sleep Phase Insomnia
Patients with altered circadian rhythms often find it hard to fall asleep before the early morning hours. They then end up sleeping through the day. This causes a further disruption to normal circadian rhythms. It can be hard to get these patients' rhythms normalized. Studies have shown that 5 mg. of melatonin given at 11 p.m. helps advance and reset circadian rhythms.55
What Can Decrease Melatonin Levels? 56
exposure to bright lights at night
exposure to electromagnetic fields
NSAIDs (Celebrex, Vioxx, Mobic, Alleve, Bextra,etc.)
SSRIs, yes the very same antidepressants that many take for FMS, including Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Paxil, and Lexapro.
anxiety meds (benzodiazepines) like Klonopin, Ativan, Xanax, Restoril, etc.
anti-hypertensive meds (beta-blockers, adrenergics, and calcium channel blockers) including, Inderal, Toprol, Tenormin, Lorpressor, etc.
steroids
over 3 mg. of vitamin B12 in a day.
caffeine
alcohol
tobacco
evening exercise (for up to three hours afterwards)
depression
Foods High in Melatonin:57
oats
sweet corn
rice
Japenese radish
tomatoes
barley
bananas
Drugs That Raise Melatonin Levels:58
fluvoxamine (Luvox)
desipramine (Norpramin)
most MAOIs
St. John's wort (acts as an MAOI and may help raise melatonin levels)
Although adequate levels of melatonin are essential for a good night's sleep,
fibromyalgia patients should initially try boosting their serotonin with 5HTP. 59
Questions
Can my patients take 5HTP along with antidepressant medications?
Yes, patients can take 5HTP with antidepressant medications. I've treated thousands of patients with amino acid replacement therapy, 95% of which were already taking antidepressants when they come to see me. I've never had a patient report a problem with combing 5HTP with prescription drugs. It can happen, but I believe it to be rare. Most individuals are on selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRIs), such as Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, Lexapro, and Celexa. These medications are trying to re-uptake serotonin in the brain (gasoline additive). However, since most fibromyalgia patients don't have any serotonin (bankrupted stress coping account) these medications don't provide much help. Once they start filling up their brain up with serotonin (from taking 5HTP) the prescription SSRI medications will then have something to re-uptake.
Can my patients take 5HTP with sleep medications?
Yes. I don't recommend patients discontinue taking their sleep medications. Instead I suggest they start using 5HTP and increase the bedtime dose until they sleep through the night. At some point they should be able to work with their doctor and slowly wean off the prescription sleep medication. Remember all prescription sleep medications have side effects. No one has an Ambien deficiency, however, fibromyalgia patients certainly have 5HTP and serotonin deficiencies, which need to be corrected.
I make it a point to remind my patients, that unlike some sleep medications; 5HTP rarely causes an early morning hangover. Combing 5HTP with some prescription sleep medications may cause a hang over. However, it's not the 5HTP but the combination of 5HTP and the prescription medication.
What if my patient is taking a prescription sleep medication and sleeping through the night?
Prescription drugs that promote deep restorative sleep include Ambien, Elavil, Trazadone, Flexeril, and Lunesta. These medications can be helpful. However, these medications have potential side effects that may cause the very symptoms associated with fibromyalgia. Ambien may cause short-term memory loss, fatigue, depression, and flu-like aches and pains.
Other common sleep inducing drugs, including benzodiazepines (Klonopin, Ativan, etc.), muscle relaxants (Zanaflex), Neurontin, and Lyrica don't promote deep delta wave sleep and therefore are not recommended. Remember the reason they're taking these prescription drugs is because they have a serotonin (and perhaps a melatonin) deficiency, not a drug deficiency. You want them to build up their serotonin levels so that eventually they may not need prescription sleep medications. You should have them add 5HTP (50 mg.) three times daily with food. If no problems arise after 2-3 days, they should then increase to 100 mg. with each meal.
What if someone has a serotonin syndrome reaction?
A serotonin syndrome may occur if a person gets too much serotonin. This can cause rapid heartbeat, increased pulse rate, elevated blood pressure, agitation, and in its worst-case scenario, life threatening irregular heartbeats (arrhythmia).
I've recommended 5HTP to thousands of individuals over the last7 years, rarely have I encountered a problem. I always start with a low dose (50 mg.) and warn the patient to stop taking it at bedtime if she has a funny reaction.
What are some of the other potential side effects of 5HTP?
Other than some patients becoming more alert when taking 5HTP at bedtime, I have had very few complaints from patients. The literature reports that individuals may have transient headaches and nausea from taking 5HTP. I have had less than half a dozen patients have one of these side effects. The headaches and any nausea usually go away after a couple of days.
When should I increase my patient's 5HTP dose?
If your patient is taking 100mg of 5HTP, is sleeping through the night and dreaming, then I would leave him at that dose.
However, if he continues to have IBS symptoms, sugar cravings, low moods, or a lot of pain, I have him continue to take the night dose that is putting him to sleep, along with taking additional 5HTP with food during the day (up to a total of 300 mg. daily).
What do you do when your patient still can't fall asleep and sleep through the night even when taking 300mg of 5HTP?
If after two weeks, someone is not falling asleep and staying asleep through the night, I add melatonin. First, I make sure she is taking 5HTP as she should be and at the maximum dose of 300mg.
Melatonin Replacement Therapy
I have patients who aren't able to fall asleep with in 30 minutes (while taking 300mg. of 5HTP) take 3-9mg of sublingual (dissolves under tongue for rapid absorption) melatonin 30 minutes before bed, along with the 300 mg. of 5HTP.
What if your patient falls asleep with in 30 minutes but can't stay asleep?
If a patient is falling asleep but has trouble staying asleep, I'll add 3mg of timed-release melatonin to their normal bedtime dose of 5HTP and regular melatonin.
Can patients take 5HTP, melatonin, and prescription sleep medications at the same time?
If they don't consistently fall asleep and stay asleep while combining their prescription sleep medication (preferably one that puts them into deep sleep, see list above) with 300mg. of 5HTP, then you need to add melatonin as well.
What if none of the above works?
OK, nobody said this was going to be easy. Consistent deep restorative sleep the crucial first step in restoring HPA dysfunction and helping fibromyalgia patients get their life back. If 5HTP and melatonin have failed, they should try one of the recommended sleep drugs above. If these don't help you should consider referring them for a sleep study to rule out sleep apnea. Females should have a their progesterone and estrogen levels checked. Cortisol and DHEA levels should also be investigated.
About Dr. Murphree
Dr. Murphree is a board certified nutritional specialist and chiropractic physician who has been in private practice since 1990. He is the founder and past clinic director for a large integrated medical practice located in Birmingham Alabama. He is the author of 5 books for patients and doctors, Treating and Beating Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, The Patient's Self-Help Manual for Treating and Beating Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Treating and Beating Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue The Manual for Non-Allopathic Doctors, Heart Disease: What Your Doctor Won't Tell You, and Treating and Beating Anxiety and Depression with Orthomolecular Medicine.
He also consults with other physicians, lectures throughout North America, and conducts 2-day doctor continuing education seminars.
I've been taking 5-HTP and GABA for several months now in lieu of an AD and antiseizure meds used to control my bipolar 2. Since doing so, not only has my mood been ten times as stable as on meds, I actually feel normal after being sick for twenty-five very long years that went from feeling weird all the time to being 'sick' sick six days a week. All I can say is that the amino acids corrected something in my brain and the fibro isn't the issue that it once was. My latest flare Sunday was no worse than the first one I had so many years ago and was gone by evening.
Take this article for what you think it's worth:
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Dear Friends,
I thought I'd share some information I submitted for NutriNews, a monthly newsletter for doctors. Some of the material is a little technical but I'm sure many of you well-read fibromites will be able to follow with no problem. I hope this information is helpful.
I continue to get letters from people wanting to know about certain medications and treatments for fibromyalgia, I've written a response that goes into more detail about how I deal with FMS and CFS and the reasons I recommend the treatments that I use. I've also put together a new SUPER Jumpstart Package that I know many of you will be interested in. Please see the link at the end of this message to see that response and information about my SUPER Jumpstart Package.
My article from NutriNews...
Fibromyalgia syndrome (FMS) is an illness characterized by diffuse muscle pain, poor sleep, and unrelenting fatigue.
Individuals with fibromyalgia may also experience headaches, anxiety, depression, poor memory, numbness and tingling in the extremities, cold hands and feet, irritable bowel syndrome, lowered immune function, and chemical sensitivities. Over 10 million Americans suffer with fibromyalgia; ninety percent of them are women between 25 and 45 years old. 1
Diagnostic tests are currently unavailable to confirm fibromyalgia. The diagnosis is usually reached after ruling out other conditions including neurological, autoimmune, endocrine, musculoskeletal, immunological, and mental disorders. Patients have typically had the illness at least 7 years and have been seen by a dozen different doctors before they're diagnosed with fibromyalgia.
In 1990 The American College of Rheumatology (ACR) first proposed the current criteria for defining fibromyalgia syndrome. The criteria include a history of widespread pain lasting more than 3 months and the presence of at least 11, out of a possible 18, tender points. Pain is considered to be widespread when it affects all four quadrants of the body; that is, you must have pain in both your right and left sides as well as above and below the waist to be diagnosed with fibromyalgia. 2
Fibromyalgia shares several of the same symptoms associated with chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS). One study which compared 50 CFS patients with 50 FMS patients, found that their symptoms of low grade fever (28%), swollen lymph nodes (33%), rash (47%), cough (40%), and recurrent sore throats (54%) to be the same for both syndromes. 3
Another study comparing CFS patients with FMS patients showed that the brain wave patterns, tender points, pain, and fatigue were virtually identical in both groups. 4
While there are common characteristics shared by FMS and CFS patients, I've found some distinct differences between the two syndromes.
Those with what I call "true fibromyalgia," suffer from fatigue but always list poor sleep and diffuse muscle pain as their primary complaints. They consistently demonstrate symptoms associated with low serotonin levels; poor sleep, increased pain, irritable bowel, brain fog, anxiety, and depression. 5
Patients with "true CFS" have a compromised immune system, which is the root of their illness, elevated blood antibodies, intermittent sore throats, and tender lymph nodes. They tend to have chronic sinus or upper respiratory or other infections, which linger for extended periods of time. Unlike those with fibromyalgia, individuals with CFS may have normal serotonin levels. And, unlike those with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue patients may not have any trouble with their sleep. They usually report they sleep all the time, yet never feel rested.
What Causes Fibromyalgia?
Research suggests fibromyalgia may be the result of:
Trauma 6, especially whiplash injuries.7
Hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal axis (HPA) dysfunction.8
Emotional/physical/mental stress. 9
Low thyroid function.10
Low serotonin states.11
Adrenal dysfunction.12, 13,14
Chronic viral, mycoplasma, and or bacterial infections.15
Endocrine disorders.16
Sleep disorders. 17,18
The truth is we really don't know for sure what causes fibromyalgia.
What we do know:
Fibromyalgia is now thought to arise from a miscommunication between the nerve impulses of the central nervous system. The neurons, which supply the brain, become more excitable, exaggerating the pain sensation. This over-amplication of pain is referred to as "central sensitization." 19
Fibromyalgia patients have a reduction in their pain threshold (allodynia), an increased response to painful stimuli (hyperalgesia) and an increase in the duration of pain after nociceptor stimulation (persistent pain).
Individuals with fibromyalgia syndrome have low levels of serotonin, a 4-fold increase in nerve growth factor, and elevated levels of substance P.20 Nerve growth factor (NGF) is a member of a family of peptides known as the neurotrophins. The exposure of nociceptive sensory neurons to NGF leads to up-regulation of substance P in sensory neurons. 21
Substance P, the neuropeptide in spinal fluid, is a neurotransmitter that is released when axons are stimulated. Increased levels of substance P increase the sensitivity of nerves to pain or heighten awareness of pain. Although it's not fully understood, fibromyalgia patients have an imbalance of the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis. This imbalance creates hormonal inconsistencies, which disrupt the body's ability to maintain homeostasis.
Many of the most common fibromyalgia symptoms including widespread muscle pain, fatigue, poor sleep, gastrointestinal problems, and depression regularly occur in people with various neuroendocrine disorders, including those manifested by HPA dysfunction. 22
Researchers believe suppression of the HPA (quite likely from chronic stress), which results in lowering human growth hormone (HGH), dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), cortisol, and other hormones, is aggravated by the chronic pain and poor sleep associated with fibromyalgia. 23, 24
Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Adrenal Axis (HPA) Dysfunction
The main function of the hypothalamus is homeostasis, or maintaining the body's status quo.
The hypothalamus receives and transmits messages from the nervous system and hormonally through the circulatory system. Because of its broad sphere of influence, the hypothalamus could be considered the body's master computer. The hypothalamus receives continuous input about the state of the body, and must be able to initiate compensatory changes if anything drifts out of line.
The Hypothalamus regulates such bodily functions as:
1. Blood pressure - is often low in those with fibromyalgia.
2. Digestion - bloating, gas, indigestion, and reflux are common in FMS patients.
4. Circadian rhythms (sleep/wake cycle)- which is consistently disrupted in FMS.
6. Sex drive- loss of libido is a common complaint for FMS patients.
7. Body temperature - is often low in FMS patients.
8. Balance and coordination- FMS patients have balance and coordination problems.
9. Heart rate - mitral valve prolapse (MVP) and heart arrhythmias are a common finding in FMS patients.
10. Sweating - it's not unusual for FMS patients to experience excessive sweating.
11. Adrenal hormones- are consistently low in FMS patients.
12. Thyroid hormones and metabolism-hypothyroid is a common finding in FMS patients.
Recent studies show that over 43% of FMS patients have low thyroid function. It's estimated that those with FMS are 10 to 250,000 times more likely to suffer from thyroid dysfunction.25
A Vicious Cycle
1. Chronic stress disrupts HPA homeostasis, leading to allodynia.
2. Chronic pain disrupts the circadian rhythm.
3. Dysfunction in the circadian rhythm results in poor sleep.
4. Poor sleep reduces growth hormone production, leading to poor repair of damaged muscle fibers, poor memory, fatigue, suppressed immune function, and more pain.26
5. Increased pain further disrupts sleep and leads to depletion of stress coping chemicals including serotonin. 27,28
6. A reduction in serotonin causes an increase in the neurotransmitter, substance P.
Substance P enhances pain receptors, creating even more pain.
7. Poor sleep and ongoing stress lead to fatigue, mood disorders, IBS and may cause thyroid
dysfunction. 29
8. Chronic stress contributes to adrenal fatigue, decreased DHEA, and lowered resistance to stress. Decreased stress coping abilities then lead to lowered immune function. 30
9. Lowered blood volume from adrenal dysfunction (and resultant hypotension) leads to further fatigue.31
Stress and Fibromyalgia
A survey by The Fibromyalgia Network reports that 62% of their respondents list physical or emotional stress as the initiating factor in their acquiring fibromyalgia. 32
I believe chronic stress is the underlying catalyst for the onset of HPA dysfunction and fibromyalgia. Several studies have demonstrated how chronic stress undermines the normal hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis (HPA) function.33
When explaining the role of stress in fibromyalgia, I find the following analogy helps put stress and fibromyalgia into perspective.
Treatment
No doubt about it, treating fibromyalgia patients and their plethora of symptoms can be intimidating.
Although I've found sleep to be the essential first step in successfully treating fibromyalgia, there are several hormonal, nutritional and biochemical deficiencies that must be corrected before a patient can truly beat fibromyalgia. Unfortunately, space doesn't permit me to address these potential deficiencies at this time. I'll spend the rest of this newsletter exploring the relationship of serotonin, deep restorative sleep and fibromyalgia. I've consistently found that many of the most troubling symptoms associated with fibromyalgia, poor sleep, fatigue, chronic pain, IBS, mood disorders, and "brain fog," are diminished (sometimes dramatically) when serotonin levels are boosted and normal circadian rhythms restored.
The Importance of a Good Night's Sleep
Studies have shown that individuals who were prevented from going into deep sleep for a period of a week develop the same symptoms associated with FMS and CFS; diffuse pain, fatigue, depression, anxiety, irritability, stomach disturbances, and headaches. 34,35.
Sleep deprivation markedly increases inflammatory cytokines (pain causing chemicals)--by a whopping 40%. 36
Serotonin
Serotonin helps regulate sleep, digestion, pain, mood, and mental clarity.37
Serotonin helps:
1. Raise the pain threshold (have less pain), by blocking substance P.
2. You fall asleep and stay asleep through the night.
3. Regulate moods. "The happy hormone" reduces anxiety and reduces depression.
4. Reduce sugar cravings and over-eating.
5. Increase a person's mental abilities.
6. Regulate normal gut motility (transportation of food-stuff) and reverse irritable bowel syndrome (IBS).
Surveys have shown that as many as 73% of FMS patients have irritable bowel syndrome.
You have more serotonin receptors in your intestinal tract than you do in your brain.
Emotionally stressful situations cause the body to release adrenaline, cortisol and insulin. These stress hormones stimulate the brain to secrete serotonin. Long term stress and poor dietary habits can deplete the body's serotonin stores.38
Tryptophan, 5 Hydroxytryptophan (5HTP) and Serotonin
Tryptophan is one of eight essential amino acids. Tryptophan is absorbed from the gut into the bloodstream and then dispersed throughout the body. Ninety percent of tryptophan is used for protein synthesis, one percent is converted to serotonin, and the balance is used to make niacin. In the formation of serotonin, tryptophan is hydroxylated to 5-hydroxy-tryptophan (5-HTP) by tryptophan hydroxylase.
5-HTP is converted to serotonin by the decarboxylase enzyme, which is vitamin B6 dependent. Tryptophan is transported across the blood-brain barrier via a transport molecule, which also carries leucine, isoleucine, and valine, and prefers leucine.
However, 5-HTP easily crosses the blood-brain barrier and does not utilize this transport mechanism; thus, it does not compete for passage through the blood-brain barrier with these amino acids.39
And unlike tryptophan, which is made from bacterial fermentation (and hence subject to contamination), 5HTP is derived from the West African plant Grifonia simplicifolia.
In the body, 5-HTP is converted directly in to serotonin. It is not broken down by tryptophan pyrrolase, and does not have to compete for transport across the blood-brain barrier.
Individuals with fibromyalgia have low levels of tryptophan38, serotonin39, and
5-HTP.40 Studies show that fibromyalgia patients have higher levels of metabolites in the kynurenine pathway, which diverts tryptophan away from serotonin production.41
Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI) Medications
Prescription antidepressants can be helpful. However, antidepressant drugs have potential side effects including anxiety, depression, fatigue, decreased sex drive, and disruption of normal circadian rhythms.42
SSRI's are supposed to help a patient hang onto and use their naturally occurring stores of the brain chemical serotonin. It's like using a gasoline additive to help increase the efficiency of your cars fuel.
Most of the patients I see with fibromyalgia are running on fumes and a gasoline additive won't help.
Please keep in mind that several studies show that between 19-70% of those taking antidepressant medications do just as well by taking a placebo or sugar pill.43
I recommend my patients boost their serotonin levels by taking 5HTP.
5HTP and Depression
Studies (including double-blind) comparing SSRI and tricyclic antidepressants to 5HTP have consistently shown that 5HTP is as good if not better than prescription medications in treating mood disorders. Furthermore, 5HTP doesn't have some of the more troubling side effects associated with prescription medications. 44, 45
5HTP and Sleep
5HTP has been shown to be beneficial in treating insomnia, especially in improving sleep quality by increasing REM sleep and increases the body's production of melatonin by 200%. 46,47
5HTP and Fibromyalgia
Double-blind placebo-controlled trials have shown that patients with FMS were able to see the following benefits from taking 5HTP: 48.
decreased pain.
improved sleep.
less tender points.
less morning stiffness.
less anxiety.
improved moods in general, including in those with clinical depression. 49
increased energy.
Irritable Bowel Syndrome, 5HTP and Serotonin
There are more serotonin receptors in the intestinal tract than there are in the brain. This is one reason people get butterflies in their stomach when they get nervous.50
The brain and gut are connected through the neuroreceptors 5-hydroxytriptamine-3 (5-HT3) and 5-hydroxytriptamine-4 (5-HT4). These serotonin receptors regulate the perception of visceral pain and the gastrointestinal (GI) motility. Serotonin controls how fast or how slow food moves through the intestinal tract.51, 52
It's common for the symptoms associated with IBS, diarrhea and constipation, to disappear within 1-2 weeks once serotonin levels are normalized with 5HTP replacement therapy.
My 5HTP and Sleep Restoration Protocol
I instruct my patients to take 50mg of 5HTP 30 minutes before bed on an empty stomach (90 minutes after or 30 minutes before eating), with 4 ounces of grape juice. I know 5HTP doesn't have to compete with other amino acids to cross the blood brain barrier, but this routine seems to heighten the effect of 5HTP.
One of three things will happen when taking 5HTP.
Starting with 50 mg. of 5HTP-
1. The patient falls asleep within 30 minutes and sleeps through the night. If so, they stay on this dose until their next scheduled visit with me (typically 2 weeks).
2. Nothing happens. This is typical response to such a low dose. The patient should add an additional
50 mg. each night (up to a max of 300 mg.) until they fall asleep within 30 minutes and sleep through the night.
3. Instead of making the patient sleepy, the first dose makes them more alert. This occurs more often in CFS and chemical sensitivity patients who have a sluggish liver. If this happens, they're to discontinue taking 5HTP at bedtime and instead take 50 mg. with food for 1-2 days. Taking 5HTP with food seems to help slow down it's absorption, allowing the liver to process it more effectively. Taking 5HTP with food will not (usually) make you sleepy. After 1-2 days on 5HTP with no further problems, they should increase to 100 mg. of 5HTP with each meal (300mg a day).
Melatonin
Melatonin is the primary hormone of the pineal gland and acts to regulate the body's circadian rhythm, especially the sleep/wake cycle. One percent of serotonin turns into melatonin, which then promotes deep restorative sleep. Melatonin is an extremely important hormone, which plays a vital role in the circadian rhythm.
Normally, melatonin levels begin to rise in the mid- to late evening, remain high for most of the night, and then decline in the early morning hours.
Natural melatonin production is partly affected by light. During the shorter days of the winter months, melatonin production may start earlier or, more often, later. This change can lead to symptoms of seasonal affective disorder (SAD), or winter depression.53
Natural melatonin levels decline gradually with age. Some older adults produce very small amounts of melatonin or none at all.
Melatonin Replacement Therapy
When administered in pharmacological doses (1-6 mg. before bed), melatonin acts as a powerful sleep-regulating agent that controls the circadian rhythm. In a recent study, volunteers were either given a .3 mg. or a 1mg. dose of melatonin or a placebo. Both levels of melatonin were effective at decreasing the time needed to fall asleep.54
Delayed Sleep Phase Insomnia
Patients with altered circadian rhythms often find it hard to fall asleep before the early morning hours. They then end up sleeping through the day. This causes a further disruption to normal circadian rhythms. It can be hard to get these patients' rhythms normalized. Studies have shown that 5 mg. of melatonin given at 11 p.m. helps advance and reset circadian rhythms.55
What Can Decrease Melatonin Levels? 56
exposure to bright lights at night
exposure to electromagnetic fields
NSAIDs (Celebrex, Vioxx, Mobic, Alleve, Bextra,etc.)
SSRIs, yes the very same antidepressants that many take for FMS, including Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Paxil, and Lexapro.
anxiety meds (benzodiazepines) like Klonopin, Ativan, Xanax, Restoril, etc.
anti-hypertensive meds (beta-blockers, adrenergics, and calcium channel blockers) including, Inderal, Toprol, Tenormin, Lorpressor, etc.
steroids
over 3 mg. of vitamin B12 in a day.
caffeine
alcohol
tobacco
evening exercise (for up to three hours afterwards)
depression
Foods High in Melatonin:57
oats
sweet corn
rice
Japenese radish
tomatoes
barley
bananas
Drugs That Raise Melatonin Levels:58
fluvoxamine (Luvox)
desipramine (Norpramin)
most MAOIs
St. John's wort (acts as an MAOI and may help raise melatonin levels)
Although adequate levels of melatonin are essential for a good night's sleep,
fibromyalgia patients should initially try boosting their serotonin with 5HTP. 59
Questions
Can my patients take 5HTP along with antidepressant medications?
Yes, patients can take 5HTP with antidepressant medications. I've treated thousands of patients with amino acid replacement therapy, 95% of which were already taking antidepressants when they come to see me. I've never had a patient report a problem with combing 5HTP with prescription drugs. It can happen, but I believe it to be rare. Most individuals are on selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRIs), such as Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, Lexapro, and Celexa. These medications are trying to re-uptake serotonin in the brain (gasoline additive). However, since most fibromyalgia patients don't have any serotonin (bankrupted stress coping account) these medications don't provide much help. Once they start filling up their brain up with serotonin (from taking 5HTP) the prescription SSRI medications will then have something to re-uptake.
Can my patients take 5HTP with sleep medications?
Yes. I don't recommend patients discontinue taking their sleep medications. Instead I suggest they start using 5HTP and increase the bedtime dose until they sleep through the night. At some point they should be able to work with their doctor and slowly wean off the prescription sleep medication. Remember all prescription sleep medications have side effects. No one has an Ambien deficiency, however, fibromyalgia patients certainly have 5HTP and serotonin deficiencies, which need to be corrected.
I make it a point to remind my patients, that unlike some sleep medications; 5HTP rarely causes an early morning hangover. Combing 5HTP with some prescription sleep medications may cause a hang over. However, it's not the 5HTP but the combination of 5HTP and the prescription medication.
What if my patient is taking a prescription sleep medication and sleeping through the night?
Prescription drugs that promote deep restorative sleep include Ambien, Elavil, Trazadone, Flexeril, and Lunesta. These medications can be helpful. However, these medications have potential side effects that may cause the very symptoms associated with fibromyalgia. Ambien may cause short-term memory loss, fatigue, depression, and flu-like aches and pains.
Other common sleep inducing drugs, including benzodiazepines (Klonopin, Ativan, etc.), muscle relaxants (Zanaflex), Neurontin, and Lyrica don't promote deep delta wave sleep and therefore are not recommended. Remember the reason they're taking these prescription drugs is because they have a serotonin (and perhaps a melatonin) deficiency, not a drug deficiency. You want them to build up their serotonin levels so that eventually they may not need prescription sleep medications. You should have them add 5HTP (50 mg.) three times daily with food. If no problems arise after 2-3 days, they should then increase to 100 mg. with each meal.
What if someone has a serotonin syndrome reaction?
A serotonin syndrome may occur if a person gets too much serotonin. This can cause rapid heartbeat, increased pulse rate, elevated blood pressure, agitation, and in its worst-case scenario, life threatening irregular heartbeats (arrhythmia).
I've recommended 5HTP to thousands of individuals over the last7 years, rarely have I encountered a problem. I always start with a low dose (50 mg.) and warn the patient to stop taking it at bedtime if she has a funny reaction.
What are some of the other potential side effects of 5HTP?
Other than some patients becoming more alert when taking 5HTP at bedtime, I have had very few complaints from patients. The literature reports that individuals may have transient headaches and nausea from taking 5HTP. I have had less than half a dozen patients have one of these side effects. The headaches and any nausea usually go away after a couple of days.
When should I increase my patient's 5HTP dose?
If your patient is taking 100mg of 5HTP, is sleeping through the night and dreaming, then I would leave him at that dose.
However, if he continues to have IBS symptoms, sugar cravings, low moods, or a lot of pain, I have him continue to take the night dose that is putting him to sleep, along with taking additional 5HTP with food during the day (up to a total of 300 mg. daily).
What do you do when your patient still can't fall asleep and sleep through the night even when taking 300mg of 5HTP?
If after two weeks, someone is not falling asleep and staying asleep through the night, I add melatonin. First, I make sure she is taking 5HTP as she should be and at the maximum dose of 300mg.
Melatonin Replacement Therapy
I have patients who aren't able to fall asleep with in 30 minutes (while taking 300mg. of 5HTP) take 3-9mg of sublingual (dissolves under tongue for rapid absorption) melatonin 30 minutes before bed, along with the 300 mg. of 5HTP.
What if your patient falls asleep with in 30 minutes but can't stay asleep?
If a patient is falling asleep but has trouble staying asleep, I'll add 3mg of timed-release melatonin to their normal bedtime dose of 5HTP and regular melatonin.
Can patients take 5HTP, melatonin, and prescription sleep medications at the same time?
If they don't consistently fall asleep and stay asleep while combining their prescription sleep medication (preferably one that puts them into deep sleep, see list above) with 300mg. of 5HTP, then you need to add melatonin as well.
What if none of the above works?
OK, nobody said this was going to be easy. Consistent deep restorative sleep the crucial first step in restoring HPA dysfunction and helping fibromyalgia patients get their life back. If 5HTP and melatonin have failed, they should try one of the recommended sleep drugs above. If these don't help you should consider referring them for a sleep study to rule out sleep apnea. Females should have a their progesterone and estrogen levels checked. Cortisol and DHEA levels should also be investigated.
About Dr. Murphree
Dr. Murphree is a board certified nutritional specialist and chiropractic physician who has been in private practice since 1990. He is the founder and past clinic director for a large integrated medical practice located in Birmingham Alabama. He is the author of 5 books for patients and doctors, Treating and Beating Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, The Patient's Self-Help Manual for Treating and Beating Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Treating and Beating Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue The Manual for Non-Allopathic Doctors, Heart Disease: What Your Doctor Won't Tell You, and Treating and Beating Anxiety and Depression with Orthomolecular Medicine.
He also consults with other physicians, lectures throughout North America, and conducts 2-day doctor continuing education seminars.
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My 6mo twin DD's are EBF and just started rice cereal on the first. Everything has been going fine except this morning one of them had a diaper rash (lots of redness around her anus). I read this as one of the signs of an allergy. BUT I did just buy a different brand diaper yesterday (which they have used randomly before w/no issues). Do you think its the cereal or the diaper? Im ready to start...
Is there a test you took to see if you are low on 5-HTP? or is there one? I know Melatonin works great for me and I don't take any sleeping pills. I'm going to give it a try...thanks!
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Vitacost.com is a great place to buy supplements and their housebrand, NSI is extremely high quality and very reasonable.
One other thing I've found interesting is that once I got to the point my brain had enough amino acids to do the job, I haven't needed as much. I developed insomnia when I got to the point I didn't need as much, but once I cut back, my sleep was okay again.
Other than that, I haven't had any side-effects although I know 5-HTP can cause stomach upset.
If you're interesting in more on GABA, there's an article in my journal on it as well as one on how the amino acids and a few other things Dr. Murphree discusses in his book have changed my life. There's also an article on 15 facts on vitamin D that's worth reading. That's another thing I've done and it's made a world of difference in how I feel. All these entries are open for everyone.
Thanks to you, I've been using the 5-HTP again (after a physician recommended it some years ago and giving it a short trial) and GABA for some weeks now, and for the first in YEARS (literally), I'm starting to sleep for a full night (most night's aren't interrupted) and also finding that, in general, pain levels are down upon awakening. It's hard to remember pain, but I was awakening, gripped by pain, literally from my head to my toes (on the end of what FELT like swollen feet). I am now sleeping and not awakening from pain as I had been. Granted I still have sciatic and cervical disc pain, as well as gut pain from a mass of abdominal adhesions and it's not going to stop those, though part of that pain was also caused by the fibromyalgia playing on my weakest areas, and it's not as bad now. Gradually, my life is improving. It also seems to be helping with depression.
I have been so long in such an unremitting state of misery that what was a break and a *decent day* once maybe every three to four weeks, went to no breaks, ever back in the beginning of 2005.
I don't want to get up false hope as I'm early on in this (and this hope feels so delicate to me), but it seems to be working on multiple levels. And my life is still extremely limited, but this investigation into amino acids and hormones in general, seems to have me on a better path.
PS- my pain management physician is one who very much sees a hormonal and neurotransmitter cause to fibromyalgia. But he's only one man, and it's hard for him to find like physicians in other specialties to refer people too.
I hope this made some sense. Will gratefully print out and read this article.
Many thanks!
I'm soooo glad you're doing better also. It's wonderful to have more than one decent day every three months, isn't it??
My sleep is sound if interrupted but I wake refreshed. Even the lack of sleep the last few days due to pain in my legs and feet hasn't left me in that bad of shape. I'm getting by on a lot less sleep which would be great if I had more to do, but that's another story. LOL.
I seem to get better sleep and feel better, and then seem to be maybe taking too much 5-HTP as my stomach/gut can't handle it.
So then I go down on it, and my sleep suffers. And I try to go up, little by little.
Last night I took it at bedtime, which I never do (along with 1/2 a trazodone), and this morning my heart is beating to pop out of my chest.
Has anyone ever experienced a racing heart when on 5-HTP?
I made the mistake of taking it and my GABA before bed last night even my mood was fine and it kept me awake till 3:30 a.m.
I'm to the point my body only needs the amino acids when my mood shifts. Guess that's a good sign and what the one book on treating bipolar naturally said would happen.
I woke up with my heart beating really hard from a crazy dream about the forum!! Can anyone say 'too involved???'
From what I watched, he figures we ALL should be taking 5-HTP and we all have sleep problems.
Here's a link to the videos for those that want to watch. I hope everyone takes a look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPGdqpMxU24
I had doubled my dose of 5-htp hoping to sleep and noticed a huge improvement in my pain. Once I got back into a sleep phase, I lowered it again and the pain is back where it was. Think I need to stay at a higher dosage to keep my pain under control.
I take 2,000 mg of GABA a day--500 when I get up and 1,500 before bed. That's just how I've worked out to do it. If I get a bit wound up during the day, I take more depending on how I feel.
One thing Dr. Murphree mentions in his book is that if 5-htp revs you up, it's probably because you have a sluggish liver. This tends to happen in CFS patients.