sounds like complete denial, if he is a danger to you and your family, you might want to look into getting him involuntaraly commited to a hospital that can help him, it sounds harse and in a way it is but in the long run you would be helping yourself and family, I've had to do it with my wife and she hated me for a long time but she was out of control and that's the only way I could help her. stay strong!

even though iam not thelegal guardian iam just the sister can i still have have him commited he is a under 18

I'm really not sure you could if you are not the guardian, but is your mother able to go talk to a judge about it?, the age I don't think matters as long as they are around 18, the hospital my wife went to had a young teenager there, but there are other places they can be placed, something like a halfway house I guess where they can learn to adjust to meds and learn to live outside the home and get jobs under supervision

yea I know but by RI state law it has to be the mother who does it or the leglly guardian and in this case the legaly guardian is my mom and it only has to happen if they under 18 because the leagl guardian has to be the one to sign the pappers and my ma will not do it and it does not help that he is still acting the way he is

Hi Brat,
I feel all that u are saying. I felt like I was reading my own note, but it's your's & he is so young. That is the age, that I believe, my son started, but we just figured it was the age, then the pot & drinking. He really wasn't that bad then, but let me tell you it gets much worse. He won't accept it either & self medicates. That's what they have to do. With my son, it's all day. I wished I had done that for my brother, because I believe, he was also bipolar, but don't know if that would have helped either. Try to do anything you can for him, while he's this young. Do anything in your power you can do. Take this from one that has lost a brother to his drinking & whatever. Ultimately he got killed trying to hold on to a truck. Just a sad soul that I would have given anything to help. Now I have a son that I would give anything to try to save from himself. I know that my brother loved me as a brother does, so maybe in one of his moments that you both may have, try to talk to him &
get him to go someplace where there are people his age & make it seem like it's the best place in the world to be with activities & all. Maybe you can actually find someplace that offers things like that, with help included in the whole scheme. Don't stop trying right now. THis is when he needs you the most. Your mother is in denial, as mine was. She would never stick to what she said & not sure that I was any better. That is why I can give this advise to you right now. I've been there &
I'm back there now reliving it all.
Take a BIG hug for yourself & go for it!!!

thanks so much

Is social services involved at all?
If not, you might want to contact the Dept. of Social Services and ask their advice. Your mother is disabled and you have cp, which make both of you vulnerable to abuse by him. You and your mother need protection, and your brother needs more help than you can give him. It will only get worse if he does not get help.
This is a very hard thing to do. You sound very caring. As hard as it is, it has to be done. You and your mom are entitled to some peace and wellbeing.