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Does this sound like a trap?

goalone
goalone
My partner has to pass a poly if we are to ever see each other. He has hoshimotos and sever anxiety. something that I think has kept him from passing. he even took one poly that he failed the question about using illegal drugs. We proved he wasn't lying when he answered that he hadn't used them in a year by doing a hair test. The hair test proved he had been clean for several years. So he did not lie but did not pass the question. The PO stated that he might not of used the drugs, but he must have felt guilty or that he was thinking of using the drugs....and failed.. WTH! So now the PO has set up another poly and given my partner the questions and answers. he has stated that if my partner passes this poly then he has been lying on the other polys and he will just have to keep taking them and not moving forward in treatment which mean I will never see him but more importantly it means he violates his probation for not progressing in treatment and goes to prison. If he fails then he is an anomaly and they will have to bring his case up to the sex offender state board. I say he fails due to his anxiety and hoshimotos which cause irregular heart beat, uneven breathing. I would bring up the possibility of treating his anxiety to the PO but he has stated that my medical background is just more cause to keep us from seeing each other. Or are these BS and someone is must looking for tells? Either way doesn't this sound like a catch 22?
ThoughtAsWeak
ThoughtAsWeak
Sounds like a catch 22 to me. I would get something documented by his doctor that says his condition would give off false reports, then have him give that to his PO AND keep a copy to provide the state board.
FreeToBreathe
FreeToBreathe
Yes... This sounds very much like a trap. LE uses polygraphs to intimidate you to confess. Everytime time they will tell you that there was some "Anomaly" you must hold strong to your answers and not let them rattle you. There is a reason why the results are not admissible in a court of law. Do not let them intimidate you!
ImagineHope
ImagineHope
My husband is going through the exact same thing right now. He was put in jail today because they said he was too tired to take the poly which his a violation. My husband is working on getting his doctor to write something out about how his mental issues are going to make his polys always come back that he is lying, because he has severe anxiety and PTSD. If he does not take the poly he can be in violation.
Here they make them sign a form saying they are voluntarily taking this, when its not voluntary, they are being forced, so it is a damned if you damned if you dont
Independent2014
Independent2014
Yes, no doubt Free! There is a darn good reason they are not allowed in a court of law, the fact that they are allowed to be used to revoke someone's freedom is down right embarrassing.

It's important to get a PO that you can work with, and to remember the PO is basically god for the time you are in their grasp. If you get the itch to try and stand up to your PO or your loved one's PO, you are most likely causing a ton of problems for yourself or loved one. You are better off holding your breath and waiting it out, however uncomfortable that is. In this case though, you can avoid that advice because your PO already has it out for your partner. Does he already have a lawyer he can talk to about this?
BrainInterrupted
BrainInterrupted
This is most definitely a trap. The problem is that standing your ground with the PO will only get your partner in trouble. The PO does have it in for him. The idea that your partner lied on the other polys (if he passes the next one) is ludicrous. Whether or not someone can fake out a poly is not the issue and a separate topic at best.

All you can do is have your partner hold his ground and keep on passing every poly.
goalone
goalone
To date my partner has taken 7 polys and even the one that we could prove he wasn't lying on he hasn't passed. I don't know why. I believe it is due to his anxiety. The main Poly guy is on the state board SOMB. is that usual? Any other board I would think them a consultant but not the board chair. I am working with a Doctor to prescribe some medication for his anxiety. In all the years I have known this man, I have never seen him so scared. Does this happen to everyone on probation? It seems that everything scares him. I know someday I will be able to see him again and maybe things will be different with me there in person. Its hard to have a relationship over the phone and run a business. I am grateful, I read the posts often and know it can get much worse. any other ideas you have about passing polys or dealing with this PO is useful. I don't think the PO will ever forgive me for standing up to him when he came over the fence at me a week after sentencing. I had never met him before. Just some unidentified guy scaling a 8ft privacy fence.... If only I had acted like a scared little rabbit. (I was scared, but was taught that was a great way to get yourself killed) so many regrets. Sorry rambling here... any advise gladly taken!
FreeToBreathe
FreeToBreathe
Unless you are a career criminal you are scared to be on probation. Most RSOLs are first offenders. I personally am very intimidated by the whole process. In Vermont you're scheduled appointment went a full 30 minutes and then some. I was called names, harassed, asked ludicrous hypotheticals of situations I would never do but they didn't believe me. People who perform polygraphs believe everyone is a liar.. I felt no relationship with my probationers whatsoever. No one would even shake my hand. I was loudly called by my last name when it was my time to "go to the double doors!" I was given 2 polygraphs, both of which I was told there was some anomaly. All I said was Okay and never heard anything more about it. I think they knew I could see right through them and wasn't about to let them intimidate me. I was given 3 drug tests and failed all 3 due to pain and anxiety medication. They made surprise site inspections every 3 weeks.

In South Carolina they call me"Mr". My appointments rarely go beyond 5 minutes and often I'm just given a card with next months appointment. I feel very comfortable with my PO. He's given me blank travel papers should I need to drive my parents to Alabama (my brother is fighting cancer.) I feel he truly cares about me. He has never asked me to take a polygraph or a drug test. My PO has made only 1 site visit and he didn't get out of his truck.
hurtingfamily
hurtingfamily
I know how you feel .hub got one every 6mths .for 13 more years .ughh .hope they get these poly shut down or sonething .even though hub passes them .and hes got high bp and on meds for it .he passes it .but the polygrapher still tries to intimidate ..they paid to lie and decieve and enjoy it ...ill be praying for you and bf and that pro situation..hubby got one nov 19th ..and right before that hes got a phlebotomy apt for 3hrs .please pray for our safety ..we going to be exausted ..and both missing day of work .but does govt care nope .they dontv.when asked my hub to tell pro about his med condition and to please change counceling to two weeks out a month .hubby said them people could care less .they dont care about nobody ..so instead he shuts up keep his health issues to himself and presses on .only way seems like anytjing can be changed is thru them or judge .even councelor cant change things to help ur finances .its All about money !.