Families of SOs Community Group
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Trying to keep my members here safe...
I hope to one day have sex offenders create the content. So this is not about me and what I think is best. Its about what everyone agrees is best.
Right now I am not affiliated with anyone except google adsense. Which helps pay for the website to run. around 200$ a year plus the time I spend in it. However I do not make that much off of it so its more a less a charity. Also take note that I do not accept donations. I do this because I want everyone to know that this site is to help people. Not to gain money.
I hope this helps anyone who reads this.
I have also seen people that do not take a good assessment of what their skills are. Then apply for jobs that are way past their experience and level, then wonder why they are denied.
Walmart and any retail outlet will be hard because you can't control the public a who comes into a store. Unless it is a store that doesn't cater to children in some way. Retail is a sucky job to get anyway, dead end and will never pay enough to live on. Manufacturing is better unless you are easily bored... But what it boils down to is that people need to be honest about their skills, their abilities and where they are at in the career they have chosen.
We can't be suspicious of every new person who tries to start a website that benefits us. Look over the site and you'll see the site is beneficial, as opposed to a certain other person who was coming here in the past.
But the information posted on the sex offender jobs site is only as good as the help we are willing to give to it. After all, there are no studies on this issue (I've been looking for years), so the best jobs info available comes for those of us who do have jobs.
I am suspicious of every new poster as this is an anonymous board. I do not moderate posts as that function is not available on this board so what anyone posts that has a userID will be able to and only after the fact can anything be policed. I do try to eliminate double postings that are basically the same information over and over, as that clutters. We can always use new admins as there are few anymore. Volunteers?
I best I can do to help any SO that takes me up on the offer is to have me review their resume first and foremost, gotta get your foot in the door, most times that is what they see first. They will reject you off the bat if they never meet you and only have an impersonal application that says nothing about YOU. At the very least something to give along with the mandatory application. I have also offered help with interviewing and how to make a great first impression. How to find the best fit for you in a job, even the crappy ones, if you like the environment/culture in which you work even if the job is shitty you will work there longer than if those things do not fit together. Which is not the case where you may love the work but the culture and management is crap you will last shorter than the other way around.
Maybe it has something to do with where I live, but if you are qualified have a good work ethic and you fit into the culture of the work place you are applying you have just as good of a chance of getting that job as someone with out the felony that wouldn't fit in to the culture at the same place of potential employment.
I will say again as I know I have said in the past, ANYONE that would like to have someone review their resume or need help writing one PM me and I will be more than happy to help. To me this is far more valuable than a blanket website that really doesn't apply to the individuals that are applying with their wide range of skills, some they probably never thought of.
Because all SOs are beaten down and resumes and job hunting are about advertising yourself. Talking up yourselves is something that you do not do. You don't look for all the good things, the positive things that you will bring to the table for an employer because you have been forced to only see the bad for YEARS. This is why people like me, people that see and know our worth to the rest of the world and advertise it and demonstrate it need to show the rest of the folks how to do that. I have been the unfortunate victim of downsizing a couple of times, because of it I have gotten a couple of courses paid for on how to write a resume, how to get your foot in the door and how to GET that interview and offers that you can even consider turning down until the best for you comes along. Especially once you get that first job and if you choose to continue looking. How to get the offer, negotiate the offer and even turn it down. How to interview the employer that is interviewing you so that YOU know if it would even be a place worth working.
I will help anyone that asks, but I have learned that trying to help someone that didn't ask for it is a waste of time and energy. So if there are folks that would like to have their resumes read, a phone conference talking about interviews and how to dominate them. and of course what happens when you get an offer what do you do, how eager should you look, etc.
I strongly believe that those that can get past the hiring hurdles that are placed in our way by HR departments anyone, felony record or not can get a job they enjoy or a culture they love.
I understand the frustration of the rejection of the job hunt, even those of us without felony records have other obstacles to overcome when finding gainful employment. I even remember when I had NO experience and couldn't not understand why no one would help me get some either. It was beyond frustrating. I recall changing careers at least twice now, the trying to get 'experience' all over again. I get it... but part of it is what a person is putting out of themselves when they walk into that interview. I am sure all of you have gotten a 'vibe' from someone right? Well same thing happens when you walk in the door of an office where you are about to be interviewed. Remember the impression starts at the door and so does your investigation and fact gathering about their place of business. What kind of business it is, is it family owned or a large corporation? Who are you interviewing with, just HR or one of the supervisors you will be working for? What does their lobby look like, nice, slap-dash, formal, casual, non-existent? Did the person that greeted you when you arrived smiling or were they looking less than happy? Not any one of these things are red flags but if you see a whole bunch of unhappy people as you are lead through the office it is probably safe to say that no one likes working there for some reason. If their lobby is not at least presentable, depending on the business, it is an indication of how they treat a lot of other things too... Maybe all their equipment is old, maybe they are cheap and don't seem to reinvest well? Or maybe they invest in their employees more than has been told to you yet.
Then there is the interview itself. Bring a notebook or portfolio, have questions to ask them handy, written down in advance and rehearsed to ask. Be honest and always try to say things in a positive way. for instance when they ask you about the gap in employment history, you can say something to the effect that you made a mistake, it is the kind of mistake that will follow you around for life but despite that and all the hurdles that are now before you, you have paid or are paying your debt to society, completed treatment if you were required to take it otherwise leave that out, and are now trying to look forward learning from your past but not wallowing in it. "I have no interest in repeating my mistakes, only learning from them and moving forward. Both in my career and personally, I am just looking for an opportunity to prove myself."
You're right there are some that are just so off put that they are going to behave badly and in my experience if it isn't something like an SO or felon type person they don't want to like, there are plenty of other types of people they also discriminate against.
The job hunt is as individual as each story behind every conviction for any crime in this country not only SOs. Shoot I make different resumes for the different types of jobs or companies I am applying for along with individual cover letters. I also do not only send copies to the HR departments but also i will research a company and figure out who the decision maker's name is and send them a copy too. Why let some $10/hr assistant that knows nothing of the position that you have applied for decide whether you are worthy to be seen by anyone else? Those twits hold a lot of power and it is best to follow their process but also to go around their process to ensure you are seen by the appropriate people. then there is the subject of follow up and thank you notes.
When I follow up I don't ask if they are interviewing yet or if they are scheduling anything. I ASK for an appointment to come in and meet with the decision makers, usually naming them myself, if I get the information. I usually ask them if I can come in within the next couple of days just to see if they will bite. If they accept my invitation it usually means they like people that are go-getters and take initiative. If they turn down the offer they don't like to be rushed, they are not as receptive to outside ideas as they may thing too.
A lot can be read about a company in the manner in which they deal with potential talent. If they are not all that nice, then it is safe to say they will probably not deviate from that much after you are hired.