Divorce after Twenty years together Community Group
I want to start something for those of us that were married for a long long time. I think that we face a little different issues than those who were dating for a few years or even married for shorter period of time. Being married for so long we have older children some have grandkids dealing with teenagers and their reaction to the divorice empty nesters dating after 40...
LisaMariB
Ok I've been reading post and sorta relating. There are still so many unanswered questions. Not that I'll ever get the answers but it helps to process. We were married 21 years (actually eloped) married at age 23; 2 kids (11 mpnths apart) by age 26. We struggled with my husbands business the entire marriage. I worked here and there but left my career to raise the kids. I worked for the business (was asked to leave to get a reliable paycheck for the family) and eventually found part time work else where as the kids were in high school. I guess the last three years of our marriage we drifted apart and our marriage was consumed by my daughter playing softball. So then my husband gets a great offer to work for this great corporation but we'll have to move about an hour and half away. No biggy. After a year my son graduates high school we'll sell the house and move, but until then my husband lives with my sister and brother-inlaw and commutes on weekends. Here's the catch: my daughter is in a horrible a car accident the summer after high school graduation right before she is to go to college on scholarship to play softball (she's a pitcher) and 3 days after my husbands mother passes away of alzhiemers. My daughter becomes paralyzed and is in the hospital and acute rehab for 6 months. Our marriage falls apart. Many emotional issues I went through during that time (post traumatic stress, depression, anxiety, etc) he wants to go to marriage counseling while my daughter is in hospital. I go but am in no way able to focus on marriage. When my daughter is able to come home my husband found a house by his job and makes modifications meanwhile we lose the house we had to foreclosure. I choose to bring her home and be with my son til he graduates and am able to stay in our house until summer. He takes it all wrong. I finally get help for my issues with a therapist and put on meds but he's gone; had enough of me. He wants a divorce. I say a midlife crisis he says he had a breaking point. At this point we are living two different places and hardly communicating. My daughter and I stay at his house two days a week and he comes home on weekends. At this point he tells me he doesn't love me anymore and hasn't for a while. I am devastated!!! I'm sure a lot of this for him has been processed by he and his four sisters over much wine. Ive begged and pleaded for him not to do this to at least try to work it out and get counseling. Ok to catch up to now a year later: he filed divorce and got it. I moved my daughter and myself from Ohio to Florida so she could go to rehab center there for her injury. My son is in college now close to my now ex-husband and sister. He doesn't talk to me. Says his decision was right. He wasn't happy. He has since been promoted several times and I'm so proud of him. But he threw me under the bus. As if I've died. I don't understand how he can be so emotionally detached and moved on so quickly. I had to deal with all our furniture and household stuff. I had to get my son in college and pick up the pieces. He says he's there for the kids only and loves and misses them. He calls or text my daughter and I'm so jealous. I'm not a part if his new life. I don't know if there's someone else. Everyone tells me there has to be for him to do this. He says there isn't. I wonder all the time - a woman's intuition I suppose. I have never been jealous or insecure in our marriage. I just always knew we loved each other. I feel blindsighted and totally betrayed! I am the sole care taker of my daughter now and I miss him and telling him all about whats going on in rehab. But he says he talks to our daughter. He has no idea what I go through. We don't talk. We would text but it always got bad. He wants to move forward as friends but I told him I can't until we deal with the issues of the divorce. So we're at a stand still. I've decided no contact with him at all. But it kills me inside to hear his voice when he talks to our daughter. I don't understand how he can be so emotionally detatched from me? How he could move on? Doesn't he think about us our family? I thought we'd grow old together. Emotionally it's been hard on everyone. Last summer was the worst for me. I cried constantly and had anxiety attacks all the time total depression. I'm better now that I decided to move but when I return home to stay at my parents (about every four weeks) it's like I go through it all over again. I love him but hate what he did. I don't think I'll ever get over him. It has destroyed our two families. My parents were devestated over this and there's been a total breakdown of family communications. His family doesn't talk to me. It's like I've been abandoned. Everything ended so abruptly. They say they just want us both to be happy. Then I hear time will heal wounds. I don't know how I can ever be friends with him or them again after what was said and done. I still cry but not as much. I'm trying to find another therapist at my new place. But everyday I think of him and more questions come up. He is so self righteous about all this and his indifference is so frustrating and confusing. How do I move on with this man (different from the one I married) now with my two adult children? I really wish I knew the other side of the story. Anyone on the other side want to comment? He tells people we just drifted apart and it's best we aren't together. I hate to prove him right. His father was married for over 50 years and he has two sisters that are divorced. Divorce was never in my family. I don't know how to deal with this now. We are both spiritual people and find him not trying and falling out of love such a cop out excuse. I'm just not happy isn't good enough for me to accept.
Narcissists can be jealous of any attention you give to others, always blame others and walk away like you don't exist. Read about them. Maybe it doesn't fit your X. But if he is Narcissistic, that may explain his behavior so you don't internalize the callous way he is treating you.
I was married 23 years, 4 children, and hadn't worked outside the home to support his career- I thought I wouldn't make it without him. Financially, emotionally. I have and I am doing very well. I needed a therapist to help me figure out why I stayed and how to move on. A year later I am still working on it and making progress.
Consider a therapist to listen and guide you. I also found Support groups helpful. It's helpful to know you are not alone. Try not to think about what he is doing. Now is your time. Put yourself in the center of your life.
Take Care
The real issue, now that your divorce is final, is finding something giving you of a sense of CLOSURE. For me, basically, when my spouse wanted out [rather he abandoned] of our marriage, it meant that he did not want to be a partner. I knew that I did not want to be with a person who did not want me....it was my closure to shut the door.
I understand about his abrupt refusal to communicate. My ex did that too. I think it's their way of dealing with their guilt. If we are out of sight, we are out of mind.
I hope you find a therapist to work through these issues. Counseling is so important during divorce--most of us here will attest to that. I know I wouldn't be where I am in my healing without the aid of a good counselor.
But one thing I will tell you is this: You say "I'm not happy" is a cop-out excuse and you cannot accept that. But you have to accept it in order for YOU to move forward and begin healing. It doesn't matter what excuse he gives you--bottom line is he's gone. You must accept that and move on.
I know this is difficult, but keep talking to us here. You will find that you will get stronger with time.
Sending hugs and prayers for you and your daughter.
Well, I am well on the other side of divorce. Six years post devastation day and 4.5 years post Final Divorce. But I can see myself in some of the things you shared here, in that you describe some of the common phases of Abandonment Recovery. I went into and STAYED in intense Therapy for a 2-year period following the day my now-X suddenly announced that he was leaving the marriage. My therapist SAVED MY HEAD for absolute certain; without her help, I'm not sure WHERE I would be or what I would be doing today. It was at her insistence that I also went on an anti-anxiety and anti-depressant for a short while which most definitely helped! I still go back to my therapist for occasional "tune-ups" when needed and I continue to monitor those random thoughts and feelings associated with the trauma that whole time brought into my life so as NOT to let it interfere with what is going on in my New Life.
At the risk of sounding like an armchair therapist, I must say that your thoughts about the "whys" and "hows" after all this time sound a bit obsessive-compulsive. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE NOW? It's over and done. You didn't die. Your daughter is still alive. You are stil the same person you always were and you are probably a lot better off than you were in a marriage with someone who was not being completely honest with you (although you didn't know it at the time). Your situation isn't a whole lot different than anyone's here, to be honest. You just seem to be having trouble reaching the essential POINT OF ACCEPTANCE.
There is a reading list somewhere on this board that is full of extremely helpful books and articles. One of my favorites is the book "The Journey from Abandonment to Healing" by Susan Anderson. Another is "Runaway Husbands" by Vikki Stark. Both of them have accompanying websites which are informative and helpful. HELP IS OUT HERE! READ, READ, READ and TALK, TALK, TALK. You genuinely have TO WANT TO GET BEYOND THIS in order to GET BEYOND THIS. Continuing to swirl around in the unresolved feelings of anger, betrayal and unanswered questions will only serve to keep you totally stuck in the muck.
When I was smack in the middle of my own 18 Months of Hell, someone said to me, "So what are you going to do, Cowgirl? Let this a$$hole make the REST of your life miserable? Or are you going to stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH?" Eventually, I "heard" that and my life forever changed for the better from that moment on. I stopped behaving like a "victim" and became the VICTOR in what was the most difficult part of my life's journey thus far.
THE CHOICE IS YOURS! No one can do it for you, but we are all here to push you as hard as we can toward true healing! You know the old saying -- When life hands you lemons, make lemonade? I say "When life hands you lemons, add tequila and salt and make Margaritas!"
"Life may not be the party we'd hoped for, but while we are here, we might as well dance!"
Keep talking to us. We are all here to help us in any way we can. xoxoxo
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Today many people use the idea of closure to suggest that a happy conclusion is possible in every relationship. That is not true. Closure does not happen between people. It happens within us. We say to ourselves, “This is done. It is finished. This is what was accomplished in the relationship; this is what could not be accomplished. Now I begin again.”
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We cannot demand closure from others. They get to be who they are. When we demand closure, what we are really saying is, “I won’t change. I want my answer. I want my prize.” But that will never work for you because your lover is not the patsy of your desires. You are like a writer who can’t finish a book. The closure you seek can only come from within. Ask yourself why a “very happily married” person would seek to commit adultery. Answer that and you will have both the closure and the closure to this affair.
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We all have needs. There's nothing wrong with wanting a relationship that fills your needs in a healthy way. No relationship is perfect, and it's very important to understand what you need from a relationship, what you can do without, and, -- more importantly -- what you already have inside yourself.
Closure doesn't come from having endless tearful conversations with the ex. You broke up because the relationship was not filling one of the partner's needs. Those conversations should only happen if you really think that something will change and those needs will start being filled.
I think that true closure comes when you care enough about yourself to know that you deserve to have those needs filled.
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Blessings and hope to you!
Jodi